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| 110woman Member Since: 14 Oct 2012 Location: Midlandshire Posts: 11   
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I've got a lovely shade of green paper one, with particularly thin, see-through bits on the folded seams and with one corner that appears to have disappeared somewhere at some point. It also has a very lovely signature that bears no resemblance to mine for years now
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15th Oct 2012 9:29pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
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IF you are caught driving after the expiring date of your photo driving licence and have not renewed it you are likely to be charged with driving without a licence under section 87 (1) of the Road Traffic Act 1988
Now if the charge was something like driving without a recent photo on your licence that would be a clearer more concise approach So there are different expiry dates on photo licence and counterpart but there is no clear indication of what licence the government is referring to when it talks about expiry dates on licences. Ho hum as clear as mud! Yes it can be difficult for the 'average law abiding motorist' to be confident that they are 100% legal. Brendan |
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15th Oct 2012 9:32pm |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015  
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There are two ways of looking at the old v new licences.
If you have an old on there is no need to renew it- there is no expiry date on it so it is valid forever (providing medicals etc). BUT To legally drive in Europe you need a photo card licence- in Germany, Holland and Cyprus (from experience) only want the card and not the paper part. Because the new licence has a photo it has a 10 year valid period- just like your passport. So yes if it expires you can be done for driving without a licence in the same way if you try to cross a border with an expired passport you will be going nowhere! Due to the old licences being flimsy and most people were changing them every few years they decided to have a policy of new licences from a certain date and then if you need to renew an old one you have to get a new one. I would say 99% of the UK are now on the new type....... just some die-hard fans still getting by on the old licences, lol. Glyn   |
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16th Oct 2012 4:47am |
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| kingofthesparks Member Since: 06 Jan 2011 Location: Very close to Watford gap services , northants Posts: 987 
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Done my tests for G - road rollers and H - tracked vehicles (tanks) earlier this year
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16th Oct 2012 5:42am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372 
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Actually B and B+E also expire on your 70th birthday but can be renewed by application, which includes a self-declaration that you are still fit to drive. I was under the impression that C1 and C1+E by virtue of grandfather rights are the same (application only) since at the time of passing the test there was no additional medical requirement, so the forwarning is useful. C1, C1+E, C and C+E which have been obtained by taking the test (and in fact C anc C+E which have been obtained by virtue of inherited rights from an old HGV1/2/3 test) expire on your 50th birthday and are renewed every five years. This application of course requires a medical exam and certificate signed off by a medical practitioner. The situation is same as far as I know for the D categories. As stated the expiry date of the photocard licence is not connected to the expiry date of your entitlement to drive various classes of vehicle. If you licence has expired however you don't have a licence (and I suppose consequently you aren't adequately insured). One advantage of having C/CE and being over 50 is that you don't have to worry about renewing the licence, it happens automatically at the category renewal closest to the expiry date. The downside is that you're paying nearly £100 every five years to keep the entitlement! |
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16th Oct 2012 9:28am |
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| kingofthesparks Member Since: 06 Jan 2011 Location: Very close to Watford gap services , northants Posts: 987
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It's 45 then every 5 years not 50, and who pays £100 for a medical  your going to the wrong place |
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16th Oct 2012 6:21pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 
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When I did the medical for my class 2 (work were paying) it was indeed £100 - thats Oxfordshire for you! Usual rate is about £75-£100 so far as I have seen.
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16th Oct 2012 6:26pm |
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| kingofthesparks Member Since: 06 Jan 2011 Location: Very close to Watford gap services , northants Posts: 987
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Drivers medicals.com £51
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16th Oct 2012 6:29pm |
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| kingofthesparks Member Since: 06 Jan 2011 Location: Very close to Watford gap services , northants Posts: 987
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Or doctors on wheels £51 also
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16th Oct 2012 6:30pm |
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