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What do you have?

B (Pre 97)

31%

[17]

B (Post 97 so no trailers)

16%

[9]

B+E

14%

[8]

C+E

37%

[20]

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Glynparry25

Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green

What licence do you hold

Good evening all,

Just out of interest what sort of licences do all you chaps hold. A few recent trailer threads about smaller trailers has made me think 'Could I survive without having trailers on my licence!' and come out with a straight out NO. I tow all sorts of trailers all the time of all weights of sizes. Fortunately the government paid for me to do my full C+E which automatically covers B+E.

I guess an extra £120 on top of driving licence is a bit more money but in my eyes the first time it is needed it would pay for itself- like helping a mate by hiring a trailer and picking a car up for them, moving house etc...... Just a handy sting to have on your bow.

Glyn

14th Oct 2012 3:53pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20331

Class B post 1997 isn't quite correct mate because it's not a NO to trailers only NOT over a 750KG MAM. So a small trailer is legally tow-able by a B class licence holder however a say 2000kg or car transporter trailer would not be allowed unless you have B+E entitlement or the pre 1997 licence which will automatically entitle you. âï¸âï¸God Bless the USA ðŸ‡¬ðŸ‡§ðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸ âï¸âï¸

14th Oct 2012 4:15pm

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2640

custom90steve wrote:
Class B post 1997 isn't quite correct mate because it's not a NO to trailers only NOT over a 750KG MAM. So a small trailer is legally tow-able by a B class licence holder however a say 2000kg or car transporter trailer would not be allowed unless you have B+E entitlement or the pre 1997 licence which will automatically entitle you.

If we wanted to be really picky then your assertion isn't quite correct either as you can legally tow trailers over 750kg MAM (ie. braked ones) under certain conditions on a post-1997 B only license. But that's not for this topic.

I have a standard B license which I obtained in 2006, so limited in what I can tow. Been towing trailers since ever and been meaning to do the test for about the same amount of time, but it's a case of getting around to it and the cost!

14th Oct 2012 4:21pm

Welshsurferdude

Member Since: 23 Feb 2012
Location: Newport
Posts: 2398

I passed my test at 17 in 1999
Did my C1 at 25 then D1 at 27 then got my D1+E at 28 which upgraded my B to B+E automatically
all my tests were paid for by various employers or government.

I couldn't imagine my licence without being able to tow anything or drive a minibus or drive a 7.5 tonner legally all were very useful outside work at times. 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)

2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS

2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold)

2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)

14th Oct 2012 4:28pm

Glynparry25

Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

Yes 750Kg gross weight- the average 'small trailer' weighs in the region of 200Kg... therefore a load weight of about 550 which isn't much in the grand scheme of things.....

I guess also I was brought up on a farm so have been using trailers since about 10yo so is an every day thing where I guess never having one could raise the question- Why do I need one.

Glyn

14th Oct 2012 4:41pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20331

Glyn - I wasn't trying to pick holes in your post just stating that it is possible.

But you are right it isn't much at all really and certainly limits trailer type and size. But then again some of us i.e. me won't need anything bigger anyway so not really an issue. But if a job or similar requires heavier haulage or you really do need to tow larger then a large trailer would certainly be useful. Uploaded this:

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(Thought it maybe useful) âï¸âï¸God Bless the USA ðŸ‡¬ðŸ‡§ðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸ âï¸âï¸

14th Oct 2012 4:49pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

wait for it ... K9F will be along shortly with a previous post link

14th Oct 2012 4:51pm

kingofthesparks

Member Since: 06 Jan 2011
Location: Very close to Watford gap services , northants
Posts: 987

I've got
A, B , C , D , B+E, C+E, D+E, G , H FKLNP

14th Oct 2012 4:55pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20331

BP - You can bet he will.

I have an interesting question though. Say you had a 110 on a post 1997 license (3.5T max vehicle weight) how would you come off with it FULLY loaded say full rack on and so on would that not be nudging the weight limit if not over? And then there's a 130?

Kingofthesparks - Do you have a pilots license too?

âï¸âï¸God Bless the USA ðŸ‡¬ðŸ‡§ðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸ âï¸âï¸

14th Oct 2012 4:56pm

22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 3149

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green

custom90steve wrote:
BP - You can bet he will.

I have an interesting question though. Say you had a 110 on a post 1997 license (3.5T max vehicle weight) how would you come off with it FULLY loaded say full rack on and so on would that not be nudging the weight limit if not over? And then there's a 130?

Kingofthesparks - Do you have a pilots license too?

It would be overladen anyway to exceed 3500KG - a standard 110 has a gross of only 3050KG. Assuming it is at max weight, your trailer would be limited to whatever would add up to 4250KG overall.

I have B&E and also Cat C - oddity is I can only a tow a 750KG trailer behind a lorry, I would have thought I could at least have towed 3500KG as per a car, but there you go...

14th Oct 2012 5:01pm

Glynparry25

Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

I have to get my head around this as it sounds dodgy.

Say I only had a B licence.

My Defender weighs 2650Kg (and has a tow capacity of 3500KG).... so I can have a trailer up to 750Kg.

But if I use my missus's Feroza (Weighs 1500Kg) I can tow up to 1499Kg.

That is Fu*ked up!!!

Glad I can tow anything without having to worry about that chart

Glyn

14th Oct 2012 5:07pm

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10381

I did a weeks crash course for my class 1 (at the time) for my 21st Birthday present !!!
Good to have but I couldn't be a driver, I'm too much of a people person

14th Oct 2012 5:24pm

Lou Sparts

Member Since: 15 Apr 2012
Location: Kent
Posts: 1501

2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver

Pre 97 current whereabouts unknown

2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve

14th Oct 2012 6:10pm

kingofthesparks

Member Since: 06 Jan 2011
Location: Very close to Watford gap services , northants
Posts: 987

Glyn did you get category H?

14th Oct 2012 6:16pm

TR51

Member Since: 17 Apr 2012
Location: Dorset UK
Posts: 333

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Corris Grey

I passed in Jan 2010 and did my trailer test in April I thought it that important...

14th Oct 2012 6:38pm

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