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| iruffell Member Since: 03 Sep 2010 Location: Marlow, Buckinghamshire Posts: 343   
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B, BE, C1, C1E, D1, D1E, fklnp
Don't have a clue what fklnp is |
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14th Oct 2012 6:42pm |
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| JJ Member Since: 18 May 2009 Location: Winchester Posts: 932 
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B, BE, C1, C1E, D1, D1E, fklnp
Valid until 03/12/2032 , must put that on the calender . |
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14th Oct 2012 7:50pm |
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| T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101  
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you lot make me feel real old! passed my test in '90
got a paper one in a plastic wallet with a card with my face on   |
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14th Oct 2012 7:53pm |
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| BBSJK Member Since: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ledbury, Herefs Posts: 100 
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Got A, B, BE, C, CE, D, DE, fklnp
But still got D1E on my provisional, go figure? 
JK No the other left . . . |
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14th Oct 2012 7:54pm |
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| iruffell Member Since: 03 Sep 2010 Location: Marlow, Buckinghamshire Posts: 343
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here's what they mean
A1 Light motorcycles of no more than 125cc and of a power output of no more than 11kW (14.6bhp). A Motorcycles, with or without a sidecar. B1 Motor tricycles or quadbikes weighing up to 550kg (with no passenger). B Motor cars or light vans with up to eight passenger seats and weighing up to 3500kg. A light trailer can be attached. C1 Vehicles weighing between 3500kg and 7500kg. A trailer weighing up to 750kg can be attached. C Vehicles weighing over 3500kg. A trailer weighing up to 750kg can be attached. D1 Small passenger-carrying vehicles with nine to 16 passenger seats. A trailer weighing up to 750kg can be attached. D Any bus with more than eight passenger seats. A trailer weighing up to 750kg can be attached. B+E Motor cars or light vans with up to eight passenger seats, weighing up to 3500kg and pulling a heavy trailer. C1+E Vehicles of between 3500kg and 7500kg pulling a trailer weighing over 750kg. (Combined weight of no more than 2000kg.) C+E Vehicles weighing over 3500kg pulling a trailer weighing over 750kg. D1+E Small passenger-carrying vehicles with nine to 16 passenger seats and pulling a trailer over 750kg. (Combined weight of no more than 12000kg.) D+E Any bus with more than eight passenger seats pulling a trailer weighing over 750kg. f Agricultural tractors g Roadrollers h Tracked vehicles k Pedestrian-controlled vehicles l Electric vehicles n Vehicles used for very short distances on public roads p Mopeds bit gutted I can't drive a roadroller |
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14th Oct 2012 7:56pm |
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| VeeTee Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1512 
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Hmmm, old?  Passed in '82 (B+E) ... Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold) 1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold) 1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold) 1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold) 2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold) 2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold) MySite |
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14th Oct 2012 8:00pm |
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| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2398 
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82 is the year i was born haha 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)
2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS 2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold) 2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) |
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14th Oct 2012 8:03pm |
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| XS Pete Member Since: 13 Jan 2011 Location: Suffolk Posts: 632 
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How do you think I feel? I passed mine in '82! 
Pete |
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14th Oct 2012 8:08pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 
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Thats not quite the case Glyn. If the 110 has a gross weight of 3050KG, (your 2650 sounds a bit low) then you can tow a trailer weighing upto 1200KG, as you are allowed a train weight of 4250KG. I don't know what a Feroza is (goes to check google) Hmmm, yes you may be able to tow more with that. I know one anomaly is you can two more with a swb Landrover than a lwb as the swb weighs less. EDIT - that is my understanding, however the Ifor WIlliams flow diagram posted above would seem to say that you are limited to 750KG. :/ They seem to be saying that the train weight can only be reached if the trailer is less than 750KG MAM. All I can say is I am glad I have my B&E as it makes life so much easier. |
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14th Oct 2012 8:57pm |
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| wslr Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Wellington, Somerset Posts: 581
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Talking to an agricultural engineer last week, he says VOSA will want tacho's on all vehicles that tow as part of a business, even if that is just once or twice a year? Anyone hear that?
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14th Oct 2012 9:09pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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Hmmmm Mere youngsters the pair of you! Brendan |
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14th Oct 2012 9:11pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20333
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Wslr - I've heard about that but I think at the end of it it was just talk. For now at least.. ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️
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14th Oct 2012 9:12pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149
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Thats been the law for years. If you tow for hire or reward you need a tacho, hence why I have on in the 110. Where it becomes a grey area is if you use a trailer as part of your business, for example a tree surgeon towing a mulcher - you can't get a clear answer from VOSA as to if that is considered hire and reward or not. I would say not, as the "work" is trimming trees, not driving. The number of times used does not matter, you could have a class 1 artic that only makes one journey a year, that journey would still require a tacho and drivers hours rules to be followed. Interestingly you can drive a class C1 for personal use (eg moving house) without a tacho, but you cannot do that with a full-size class 2, you would have to use a tacho even if its for personal use. |
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14th Oct 2012 9:15pm |
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| WelshGas Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Vale of Glamorgan Posts: 935 
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1966
LANDYWATCH
Neighbourhood Watch for Land Rover Owners http://www.landywatch.co.uk/smf2/index.php |
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15th Oct 2012 5:49am |
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