DEFENDER2.NET - View topic

↓ Advertise on Defender2 ↓

Home · FAQ · New Posts · My Posts · PMs · Search · Members · Map · Calendar · Profile · Donate · Register · Log In

Home > Puma (Tdci) > Wading depth

Page 1 of 2

Print this entire topic ·

jay knowles

Member Since: 10 Mar 2012
Location: london
Posts: 29

Wading depth

Why is the wading depth only 500mm on the new defender when the air intake is far higher than this, i think i read the discovery is 700mm, thanks Jay

11th Apr 2012 7:17pm

Dave-H

Member Since: 08 Feb 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1507

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tonga Green

Because LR are covering their ar5e in case you get it wrong .... cant blame a stuffed engine on them .... simples

Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.

11th Apr 2012 7:29pm

jay knowles

Member Since: 10 Mar 2012
Location: london
Posts: 29

So how much deeper can they safely go. Jay

11th Apr 2012 7:35pm

BigMike

Member Since: 13 Jul 2010
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2253

If you have a snorkel then it's really up to you. However, diff breathers are needed, engine, electrics etc. I hate wading and try to avoid it at all costs because of the problems it can create. Never understood the obsession with it (not saying you have that, but just generally when it comes to landrovers)

Oh, and if you have a puma, you cant get a breather on the gearbox without dropping it.

11th Apr 2012 7:38pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20359

BigMike wrote:
If you have a snorkel then it's really up to you. However, diff breathers are needed, engine, electrics etc. I hate wading and try to avoid it at all costs because of the problems it can create. Never understood the obsession with it (not saying you have that, but just generally when it comes to landrovers)

Oh, and if you have a puma, you cant get a breather on the gearbox without dropping it.

For once Mike I agree with you other than perhaps a ford crossing like Tarr steps. Driving into bomb holes full of water is a sure fire way of ruining a vehicle especially a Puma. With the cost of what could go wrong / damage you'd probably save money by buying an old tdi and using that + it wont have as many electrics.

11th Apr 2012 8:00pm

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2415

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

BigMike wrote:
If you have a snorkel then it's really up to you. However, diff breathers are needed, engine, electrics etc. I hate wading and try to avoid it at all costs because of the problems it can create. Never understood the obsession with it (not saying you have that, but just generally when it comes to landrovers)

Oh, and if you have a puma, you cant get a breather on the gearbox without dropping it.

Not really. You can access the breather from inside by removing the cover. Puma 110" SW

.............................................................
Earth first. Other planets later

11th Apr 2012 8:38pm

d j hutton

Member Since: 30 Jul 2009
Location: Dorset
Posts: 1044

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey

konabikes11 wrote:
BigMike wrote:
If you have a snorkel then it's really up to you. However, diff breathers are needed, engine, electrics etc. I hate wading and try to avoid it at all costs because of the problems it can create. Never understood the obsession with it (not saying you have that, but just generally when it comes to landrovers)

Oh, and if you have a puma, you cant get a breather on the gearbox without dropping it.

For once Mike I agree with you other than perhaps a ford crossing like Tarr steps. Driving into bomb holes full of water is a sure fire way of ruining a vehicle especially a Puma. With the cost of what could go wrong / damage you'd probably save money by buying an old tdi and using that + it wont have as many electrics.

Don't think my old tdi has any electrics

I get enough water in when it rains without going in a river. 50cm doesnt seem that deep, but maybe it keeps the carpets dry.

The battery is right up the top in a d3 so it might be something to do with that, probably wouldn't be good to immerse the battery.

Dj 1989 200tdi 90 csw
2011 110 usw Orkney grey

Buy British 🇬🇧

Defender Clothing Designs available at http://www.rangesports.com/acatalog/Defender-Stuff.html

11th Apr 2012 10:34pm

cradgebank

Member Since: 30 Dec 2008
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 308

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

BigMike wrote:
If you have a snorkel then it's really up to you. However, diff breathers are needed, engine, electrics etc. I hate wading and try to avoid it at all costs because of the problems it can create. Never understood the obsession with it (not saying you have that, but just generally when it comes to landrovers)

Richard

Either a 90, 110 or 130.
Discovery 5

12th Apr 2012 12:45am

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8026

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

td5 ecu is under the drivers seat, puma has some electrics under the drivers seat too depending on options/MY. plus breathers as above.

D3/D4 etc have 700mm wading but remember they have air suspension (its lower on coil sprung ones 600mm?) so body work is raised up Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

12th Apr 2012 6:01am

XS Pete

Member Since: 13 Jan 2011
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 632

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but it has reminded me of something I noticed last time I was under the bonnet.

On my MY11, I noticed that on the passengers side (RHD) towards the rear of the inner wing there are three small-bore black plastic pipes poking up which didn't seem to go anywhere, they just ended there clipped together with their tops turned over.

So, I had a quick look underneath with a torch, and they appear to be routed to the front and rear diffs and the third towards the gearbox or transfer case.

So, do they now fit breathers as standard on the Puma?

Pete

12th Apr 2012 7:28am

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8026

they always have fitted them as std to all Defenders.

the discussion lies on whether the ones fitted are long enough wade beyond 500mm. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

12th Apr 2012 8:14am

Zagato
Site Supporter

Member Since: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Billingshurst West Sussex
Posts: 5013

It can't do all the electrics any good if you go deeper, especially the alternator but then that must get soaked when driving in rain anyway

For me it's the muddy silt that does equal harm gets in everywhere, radiator, swivels seals, electrics, chassis all the nooks and crannies and you can never get it all out again

Of course the Defender will do it but I wouldn't put a nice one through that, water grit and mechanicals are not a great combination

Last edited by Zagato on 12th Apr 2012 8:26am. Edited 1 time in total

12th Apr 2012 8:22am

cradgebank

Member Since: 30 Dec 2008
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 308

XS Pete wrote:

So, do they now fit breathers as standard on the Puma?

Pete

Breathers have always been fitted as standard since the introduction of 110 / 90 in 1983/4. Richard

Either a 90, 110 or 130.
Discovery 5

12th Apr 2012 8:23am

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8026

Zagato wrote:
It can't do all the electrics any good if you go deeper, especially the alternator but then that must get soaked when driving in rain anyway For me it's the muddy silt that does equal harm gets in everywhere, radiator, swivels seals, electrics, (

starter motors being my biggest nause, esp with an auto Defender! got through 4 s/m one year from wading. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

12th Apr 2012 8:28am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2638

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Just to be safe, re-route your breathers into the engine bay. Doesn't take much effort

--
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged

Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ

12th Apr 2012 8:45am

Page 1 of 2

All times are GMT

Jump to

< Previous Topic | Next Topic >

Posting Rules

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum