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LandRoverAnorak



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The most common failure of door mounted electrical gubbins seems to be breaks in the wire where it flexes between door and frame, i.e. where it's constantly moved backwards and forwards. In the installation shown in those photos' the wire is fixed in place all the way through the door, so shouldn't suffer fatigue. Once inside the vehicle, a generous loop would reduce the flexing to the bare minimum, so it should be pretty resilient. Darren

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ZeDefender



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LandRoverAnorak wrote:
"so it should be pretty resilient"

...unlike many other parts Laughing Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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Right I've had mine ton bits today and have now worked out that the only issue I have is i need to know which wire on the head windscreen switch should I get the feed from the activate the relay? Russell
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BigRuss wrote:
Right I've had mine ton bits today and have now worked out that the only issue I have is i need to know which wire on the head windscreen switch should I get the feed from the activate the relay?

Don't think I can help you there - I just took positive from the spade connector at the screen itself (purple) and earth from the bulkhead. Good luck Thumbs Up
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ZeDefender wrote:
BigRuss wrote:
Right I've had mine ton bits today and have now worked out that the only issue I have is i need to know which wire on the head windscreen switch should I get the feed from the activate the relay?

Don't think I can help you there - I just took positive from the spade connector at the screen itself (purple) and earth from the bulkhead. Good luck Thumbs Up
Matt


The purple wire is all the help I needed cheers buddy Thumbs Up Russell
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ZeDefender



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Sorry to drag up an old issue.
But can anyone tell me with regards to the MUDStuff heating pads there are two ‘brown’ wires and one ‘blue’ wire. Which is positive and which is negative/earth? Or doesn’t it really matter?
I would have at a guess that ‘blue’ wire would be positive and ‘brown’ wire negative/earth. There for power would flow from the center of the mirror out, thus defrosting the mirror in this direction?
I also believe they have a 14amp current draw per pad or is it 14amps for two pads? Can anyone verify?
Thanks guys, sorry to be so picky about all this. 2008 110 SVX Defender
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ZeDefender



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Call or E-Mail Mudstuff?

+44 (0) 1422 881951
mud@mudstuff.co.uk

*edit* Even better - here are the instructions: http://www.mudstuff.co.uk/fitting_instructions.shtml
Good luck Thumbs Up

Matt

p.s. to avoid death, in UK mains AC wiring, brown is generally live and blue is neutral. This is often carried over to DC wiring with brown being positive/live and blue being negative/earth. Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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Nugget



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ZeDefender wrote:
Call or E-Mail Mudstuff?

+44 (0) 1422 881951
mud@mudstuff.co.uk

*edit* Even better - here are the instructions: http://www.mudstuff.co.uk/fitting_instructions.shtml
Good luck Thumbs Up

Matt

p.s. to avoid death, in UK mains AC wiring, brown is generally live and blue is neutral. This is often carried over to DC wiring with brown being positive/live and blue being negative/earth.




Arr Matt perfect, you’re a ‘champion’. Thanks a heap for that. Thumbs Up
I bought them from Devon a little while ago, not realizing until yesterday they are a MUDStuff produce. I sent Devon an E-mail and their reply was ‘Wire them up as per a set of driving lights’. Not really the question I was asking. Anyway, all’s good.
Thanks again.
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You seem to have sorted it already, but on the heated pads it wouldn't make any difference which way around they were connected.

however, if it was something that might get "earthed" (as in, touching the main vehicle chassis or bodywork) then black or blue would be -ve, red or brown would be +ve.
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Sorry posted in wrong thread - can it be deleted
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jst



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to drag this up again

so fitting heated mirrors to work off the front heated screen - you can just take a feed off the front heated screen relay output - ie purple wire?

what about to wire them in to come on off the rear Heated screen relay? does anyone know the colour for the rear heated screen output.

secondly - where are the two relays located? Cheers

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James, you can wire them up to run off of anything, using a new relay to avoid putting any more load on the existing relays. If you run them independently you shouldn't need a relay since they will only be a couple of amps each tops and the advantage of course is that you won't have the HWS or HRW running when you need the mirrors clearing. Ideally the best set up in my opinion, would be to run then them through a 10 minute timer relay with a non latching switch - fire and forget independent control Smile although I realise fitting another switch in your Puma dash could be tricky.

HTH
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T1G UP



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as tim said theres more than another spare capacity in the front screen electrics to tap off that.
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jst



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Hi Mo - yep udnerstand all that but your last line says it all, i dont really want another switch on the dash!!

so where is the front screen relay? Cheers

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Post #175752 14th Oct 2012 6:39pm
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