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Birdy



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Emergency Key Access (EKA)
My August 2011 Defender came with alarm and immobiliser.

The handbook goes through the disarming procedure using the four-digit code “recorded on the Security card” conspicuous in my case by its absence.

Salesman suggested that emergency disarming is no longer possible, service guys went through all the information on their database about my vehicle, found no security information recorded and concluded that if I’ve a problem in the future tough sh….t, I’ll have to call Land Rover Assistance.

Can anybody confirm?

Peter
Post #117972 23rd Jan 2012 10:42pm
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d j hutton



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Same here, took a while to sort that one out, although I was told that no longer needed - something to do with the keys being changed, although I'm not convinced.
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Post #117974 23rd Jan 2012 10:45pm
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d j hutton



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Damn these doubles posts!

I know what I did now though

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Post #117975 23rd Jan 2012 10:47pm
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Birdy



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How sorted out?

I allowed myself to be fobbed off, but just last week a mate was obliged to disarm his Range Rover by turning the key three times and slamming the door four times and singing Hare Krishna or whatever was required, but at least he wasn’t stuck.

Peter
Post #117978 23rd Jan 2012 10:51pm
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Lorryman100



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Do the 2011 build Pumas still use the Lucas 10AS alarm module? If so they are talking Censored . Get them to plug it into their diagnostics and they can read the EKA off the screen. You can see it in the bottom left of the pic. The boxes are empty because I don't want to show the settings info on my Puma.



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Brian.
Post #117981 23rd Jan 2012 10:58pm
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d j hutton



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Not really sorted out, rather they went away for a few days to obtain the code (also the radio code) - came back with the radio code but said emergency key thing not longer relevant.

Much like the leather covered gear knobs mentioned in the brochure I guess.

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Post #117982 23rd Jan 2012 10:59pm
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pom



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Ain't it the same unit fitted to rover 45's ?

On those you could disarm the alarm by entering the code using the drivers door lock like entering a safe. 3 left 2 right etc

Pom
Post #117987 23rd Jan 2012 11:10pm
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Lorryman100



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The rover 45 had the 5AS unit pom, and it too had the EKA function Thumbs Up
Post #117989 23rd Jan 2012 11:20pm
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Birdy



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Lorryman: Yeah, that was the screen they brought up and showed me. I can't remember the contents, but it was from that they "proved" that no EKA was available. I'll try to get a copy of it...

Pom: Exactly, but you have to know the correct sequence for your particular vehicle.

Peter
Post #117991 23rd Jan 2012 11:28pm
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Lorryman100



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I'm surprised they did not program a 4 digit code in for you as the 10AS allows new settings to be written?
Post #117992 23rd Jan 2012 11:30pm
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Birdy



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Lorryman: Mmmm, looks like we're getting somewhere. Definitely something to go back to them with. Having been "immobilised" last year in another car because the chip fell out of the ignition key, I'm perhaps a little paranoid.

Peter
Post #117995 23rd Jan 2012 11:36pm
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Lorryman100



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Birdy, if you get no joy with the dealer supplying an EKA code it would be worth asking them exactly how you are supposed to get home if:

a: you lose the fob?
b: the fob batteries die?
c: the fob is knackered for whatever reason?

because then the Puma is immobilised through the passive immobiliser and you need a EKA code to bypass it for one ignition cycle as a get you home measure.

Brian.
Post #117996 23rd Jan 2012 11:42pm
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party monkey



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Are the MY2011 ignition keys an integrated unit, as in no separate plipper/key ? Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless.
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NinetyTD4



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party monkey wrote:
Are the MY2011 ignition keys an integrated unit, as in no separate plipper/key ?


Same old two pieces on my September 2011. Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.
Post #118032 24th Jan 2012 8:57am
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party monkey



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NinetyTD4 wrote:
party monkey wrote:
Are the MY2011 ignition keys an integrated unit, as in no separate plipper/key ?


Same old two pieces on my September 2011.


B*gger... that blows my theory out of the water then Sad Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless.
Post #118046 24th Jan 2012 9:59am
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