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dainger



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That blue TD5 looks stunning.. proper used but also well looked after. Underside looking mint I’m sure now you are done with it Chris. πŸ‘
Post #1043455 21st Aug 2024 1:42pm
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To all clients my email has crashed, temporarily I hope. To get in contact please call 07484160070. Thank you. Chris
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Hi Chris

Is your email up & running again?

I have been recommending you today on the D3 forum.

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ganimead



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Brand new box on frame car Dinotrol 4010 question
Hello Chris,

My research into Dinitrol 4010 brought me to this thread that has educated me endless about corrosion prevention. I just bought a brand new box on frame SUV and my local Dinitrol applicator wants to use 4010 on it. I live in a place that salts the roads in the winter but gets very warm in the summer.

Is this the best product for the task? They also want to use it to spray inside the frame, panels ect. Is there a better Dinitrol product for that or shoot it all with 4010 and be done with it?

Thanks for your insight, just want to be sure the local guys are doing it right.

also, if i got with 4010, am i then stuck using 4010 for the next application or would it need to be dry ice blasted off before changing product (if i was unhappy with the results)
Post #1048092 9th Oct 2024 5:14am
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Apologies for the late reply, yes clear coat 4010 is perfect for what you have inside and out AND you can go over the top of it in the future (even paint) if you decide you would like a bit of colour!
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New Galv Chassis on 2002 TD5 Double Cab - Clear Coat?
Hi Chris,

I have just had the chassis on my 2002 TD5 Double Cab replaced with a new galvanised chassis.

I have gone through all the 86 informative pages of the post, but cannot find any comments that match exactly to what I am thinking of doing, so I can I ask your advice. (Galv trailer comments on page 69 were close)

Chassis External
I would prefer to coat the chassis in a clear finish rather than a black finish so that the galv can still be seen.

I presume for this I would need Corroheat 4010 Clear Coat

Chassis Internal
I presume that Corroheat 4010 Clear Coat would work for this as any other type would ooze out of holes and discolour external parts.

Underbody
Clean off rust areas then treat with RC900 and overcoat with 4941

Axles
Clean off rust areas then treat with RC900 and overcoat with 4941

Any advice is greatly appreciated. Smile

If you were a bit closer I would have booked it in, but I'm in Leeds!
Post #1050277 30th Oct 2024 4:26pm
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Apologies for the late reply...

External chassis... yes 4010
Internal chassis... 1000 clear cavity wax
Underbody... yes.
Axles... yes.

Have fun...

These two in at the moment. One destined for Morocco with baby on board and the other for local mucky use. It's still in great condition after I did it 5 years ago. The owner was considering selling BUT realises it's getting harder all the time to pick up nice ones. Good ones are a premium also so he has decided to keep it 😁 Really nice guy as well... all my clients are., I'm lucky.


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Post #1051887 16th Nov 2024 11:21am
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@Zagato Thanks Smile
Post #1051896 16th Nov 2024 12:03pm
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Cor this thread is worth a bump Bow down
Post #1056797 9th Jan 2025 4:33pm
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Thank C90 Thumbs Up

It reminds me to update it also... I have had quite a few 110's in recently that still haven't had a rear mudflap supporting bracket added and of course the rear wing lip has been chewed away. It's mentioned a few times in this thread but of course it's a lot to wade through. Put a gasket in between the panel and reinforcing bracket to stop electrolysis/corrosion as well as the fasteners. Anything that doesn,t hold moisture, thin bit of plastic etc. Just one example of what is available.


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Post #1063260 18th Mar 2025 2:07pm
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Zagato wrote:
You will find your answer repeated a few times in this thread but quickly.... Any acid rust converter treatments (Ku-Rust, Fertan, Jenolite, RC900 etc etc are all the same about 6-9% acid content in various mediums) are only effective if you get the rust right down to good metal. They don,t soak into rust much at all. They are effective on metal which you can grind back to near good metal BUT on Land Rover chassis you cannot get machinery into the various nooks and crannies or in seams or welds so simply spraying it on top of rust is next to useless especially if there is significant rust. "Professionals" and DIYers have realised that ACF-50 stabilises rust more effectively, even after a year when it becomes inactive. I have had a test area going back 9 years that I have retreated once and it has not got any worse. I'm not suggesting this would be the same on a Defender chassis... how it Is prepped... seams, welds, conditions... all considered but it is definitely more effective than acid convertors in rustier areas. Don,t be tempted to use the tough hard coatings you are just trapping in rust, not stopping it... despite what so many products claim about stopping rust, they don't, they just stop it showing through or simply cover over rust!
ACF-50 is not that durable to road conditions long term, especially off-road so you need to put a covering over it to protect it. Dinitrol 4941 is ideal for this. At first it will have a tacky, wet look, but it will go off to the dry matt finish after a couple of weeks πŸ‘ You can buy 4litres of ACF-50 for Β£80 from The Sportsbikeshop you will probably only need half of that. If using a compressor you will need the paint spraying type or brush it on, or spray it on with a simple garden hand pumped sprayer e.g. Old empty bug sprayer.
The point with Defender chassis is to have the ability to slow the rot right down, be able to keep an eye on corroded areas and retreat when necessary every 4-5 years if required.


Hi Zagato,

I am in the process of making some repairs and treating rust and wonder if you could clarify for me. Earlier in this thread you said that one should never put dinitrol over acf50 as the dinitrol will never go off, but above you suggest the opposite.

Sorry, I'm not trying to catch anyone out here, I just want to make sure whatever I do is the right thing.

I'm also wondering what to do with the new bits of metal to be welded in. Acf50 and dinitrol or paint first up the the weld line?

Thank you for your great guide and many helpful posts.

Tom
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