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| coln18 Member Since: 01 Nov 2011 Location: Loch Lomond Posts: 45  
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you will think this is a wind up, but ive been told this is good stuff for sealing joints and cracks, not used it yet myself but since ive got the same leak as you i will be giving it a try once i get a nice dry day.
CAPTAIN TOLLEY'S CREEPING CRACK CURE SEALANT COL |
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5th Dec 2011 2:22pm |
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| Waldo Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Bit South of Manchester Posts: 240 
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Haha it does sound like a rather suspect product
I'll look it up and see where I can get some from. Does yours leak from the corner down the window and the post itself to ultimately drip on your foot? Defender 90 XS TD5 (03 Reg) |
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5th Dec 2011 2:24pm |
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| Waldo Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Bit South of Manchester Posts: 240
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JUst looked at the specs and this caught my eye
6 TEMPERATURE FOR USAGE Do not use on cold surfaces where the temperature is less than 5°C, or on hot surfaces above 27°C. Defender 90 XS TD5 (03 Reg) |
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5th Dec 2011 2:27pm |
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| alfajock Member Since: 12 Jan 2011 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 227 
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Fantastic stuff. Did my crack no end of good. The neighbours seemed a bit surprised to see me crawling around on all fours on the roof of my 110 applying it, mind. Seriously, great stuff for hairline cracks as it runs like water and will creep in by capillary action and seal up. Downside is that you have to be prepared for the residue to also run out for the same reason and therefore you may well have to apply it several times to allow it to build up. Also good for sealing window frames, sunroof seals and alpine lights ie all the usual suspects. And yes to Dum Dum in the top corner, and also the gap behind the door seal between the windsreen frame and the top of the bulkhead. Fully Restored 89 110 CSW V8 CLS 350 CDI for the sensible stuff |
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5th Dec 2011 3:13pm |
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| Waldo Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Bit South of Manchester Posts: 240
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Right, that's very good to know!! Thanks!!
I've literally just dried of what I think is the offending crack, and duct taped it comprehensively If this solves the problem I will know that's where to apply the CTCCS (Captain Tolley's creeping crack cure sealant) There is already some dum dum in place in the top corner on closer inspection. Should I remove and replace with new? (tape over it was coming off so has also been replaced with duct tape) Will Defender 90 XS TD5 (03 Reg) |
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5th Dec 2011 3:42pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5663 
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You must of heard about creaking crack before Waldo!
Well used in boating, check the vent flap seals as well. And stop  about, and get it muddy.
Andy |
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5th Dec 2011 7:53pm |
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| Waldo Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Bit South of Manchester Posts: 240
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The vent seals are sound, nothing coming in there.
I can actually see it running down from the corner when I'm in it ha. Don't worry, I've finally organised to do something this Sunday 
Will Defender 90 XS TD5 (03 Reg) |
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5th Dec 2011 9:37pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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dumdum is the best product as it never sets hard.
key thing here is to find the leak, I suffered from a wet foot, shoulder in my td5 for a while. check the small joins at the top of the windscreen, the top of the a posts, the gutters and the curved gutter on the roof that goes around the back door. that's where my leak was, fixed with dumdum and forgot about it |
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5th Dec 2011 9:51pm |
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| Waldo Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Bit South of Manchester Posts: 240
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Okay folks, it appears it's not right in the corner of the A post this leak
I have to park my car on a slight hill. About 5-15 degrees backward roll and 5-15 degrees pitch to the right when it's stationary. I get in the car shut the door and no leak. Reverse onto the flat of my drive where the nose of the car is probably down a degree or two and hey presto on comes the water. Appears as if the water is building up somewhere as if in a reservoir and then being released. I do have a sunroof but that's watertight (had the inner black trim thing off and a good look. Any ideas where the water could be coming in from? Haven't tried parking the other way round yet. Regards Will Defender 90 XS TD5 (03 Reg) |
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6th Dec 2011 12:44pm |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5012
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Go back to the manual and work your way through it for this area. i.e. seal your sunroof properly from the outside this is a must as with all the windows and in your case the alpine windows especially, seal the roof join seam if the paint has cracked, check the front gutter corners are not cracked, seal the A pillars tops anyway. The reservoir you talk about could be the water collecting in the headlining which it does!.
I use Dum Dum and/or Sealing Compound from Frosts.co.uk and Creeping Crack Cure for hairline cracks 
It's just a good idea to get a local window fitter in to seal your windows for around £90 and you can do the rest e.g. cappings, bulkhead hinges, etc etc as per the water ingress manual |
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6th Dec 2011 1:02pm |
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| alfajock Member Since: 12 Jan 2011 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 227
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It sounds like it could be collecting in the inner flange of the roof, the flat bit that the body-sides and pillars bolt to, and then running merrily forward along that and down from the front edge of it when the nose dips (or you brake). It's a well known problem, and the usual suspects are leaking alpine lights and / or the joints in the roof itself where the water can seep in then run down the side of the roof into the flange.
I spent literally years thinking my impromptu showers were down to the sunroof before I figured this one out. Liberal applications of (you've guessed it - Captain Tolleys) to the alpine window seals and the roof joint between the flat and angled sections, and problem solved. Good luck! Fully Restored 89 110 CSW V8 CLS 350 CDI for the sensible stuff |
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6th Dec 2011 1:07pm |
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| twopoint6khz Member Since: 18 Aug 2011 Location: North Lakes Posts: 654 
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Had exactly the problem you describe in my old 90, it turned out to be leaking right at the rear of the vehicle on the roof join, just above the curved section of guttering that runs over the rear door. The top roof panel is crimped over the side panel and riveted, and it was getting in there somewhere on the folded section. It was then leaking into the internal sill and running right down the car, giving the passenger a little shower when you pressed the brake
Fixed it with liberal application of bathroom sealant in the end, mainly because it's clear and I didn't want black dum-dum all over my white roof. However I'm aware that's not a long-term fix. Fortunately I have now sold the car  |
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6th Dec 2011 1:53pm |
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| Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266 
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try adjusting the striker so the door shuts on the seal tighter,sorted ours
2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up. |
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6th Dec 2011 4:35pm |
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| Waldo Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Bit South of Manchester Posts: 240
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Hi again guys thanks for the rapid replies
I've had a bit of a poke around behind the headlining around the alpine windows on the leaky side. I found some moisture in the inner gutter or flange as alfajock suggested. Then headed through to see a mechanic buddy of mine about some greenlaning this sunday, turns out he had a defender in the workshop with the headlining removed so I can see where the water could be running which is useful 
So What I'm going to do Is: For a start remove the headlining front and rear tomorrow lunchtime. I'll see if the leak is obvious and seal it if it is. If not I'll shove Larry in the garage or put a big plastic sheet over him for the night after drying the inside out. Then I'll hose the hell out of it on Thursday and see if I can spot the leak and fix it. Dum dum is the obvious one for large holes. The CTCCS is still probably the idea for hairline cracks More questions: Best sealant to go over the sunroof seal on the exterior? As for "other cracks I find" I've been recommended "final systems flexible seal sealant" by my mechanic buddy - it's what he uses in the workshop and he says it's decentor do other people know of a better product. The Landy is Black by the way so Black sealant isn't an issue 
Hopefully I'll order all of this stuff tonight so by Thursday it should all be fixed. Thanks Will Defender 90 XS TD5 (03 Reg) |
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6th Dec 2011 5:20pm |
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