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| Mo Murphy Member Since: 01 Jun 2008 Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts Posts: 2250   
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Superpro.
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen. 50 Shades of Pennine Grey |
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9th Jan 2025 9:09am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5858  
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Thanks both.
Unfortunately I need them this weekend. Can't find Superpro in France. I have a choice of Britpart, Terrafirma or what I've already got, which aren't even original LR, just 'AllMakes', so could therefore just be Britpart. Later this year I plan to do a full underbody upgrade, with GL and Ashcroft parts, so would do a full super pro kit then. In the meantime, 25€ for the Terrafirma, arrive by tomorrow, or stick with what I've got? I know TF don't have a stellar reputation, but I'm thinking of ease of fitment and use for just 6-8mths. Watchoofink? Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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9th Jan 2025 9:26am |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5864 
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If you are planning on replacing them all later in the year, go Terrafirma to get you mobile.
In the meantime, maybe keep eyes peeled for a spare set of arms and then you can swap bushes at your leisure. 1999 Defender TD5 110 Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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9th Jan 2025 9:36am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5858
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Makes sense
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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9th Jan 2025 10:15am |
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| rustandoil Member Since: 08 Sep 2012 Location: Cotswolds Posts: 755  
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Nice one! You can put the cash you've saved removing the old bushes yourself towards a Super Pro upgrade.... 👍🏼
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9th Jan 2025 10:32am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17475 
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Should you decide to fit the old "metalastic" (original) style, lubricate the hole in the arm and the outside of the bush with a good copper grease before pressing them in. You will find that they then come out relatively easily in the future.
If you are going down the polyurethane route, ignore this advice! |
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9th Jan 2025 10:53am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5858
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Well, assuming a garage with a lift, impact drills, a vice and a couple of guys who know what they were doing could likely get it all swapped in a morning (3hrs?), at the local rate of 100€/hr, I won’t be so much putting the savings ‘towards’ the GL Superpro kit, as buying it outright. Assuming it doesn’t get spent on beer first….
Overall, it’s been a standard Defender DIY maintenance experience: Worth doing, took longer than expected, was at times bloody frustrating, shed blood, but ultimately a rewarding experience. I’m saying all this without having yet attempted to put everything back together mind you, bushes should arrive tomorrow, so a job for Sat am, so fingers crossed my positive ‘chi’ doesn’t change by lunchtime…. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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9th Jan 2025 10:55am |
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| MarkBrown Member Since: 03 Oct 2022 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 484  
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I’ve had a chassis set of britpart black poly bushes since I rebuilt the truck. It’s done about 20k since and they’re all good, but given the choice I’d probably get the ones Gwyn Lewis supplies next time. Glad the burn and saw method worked - that’s what I always do- but a press would be nice! 1983 110 automatic OM606
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9th Jan 2025 10:57am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5858
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Going PU. Interestingly, I’d strongly suggest that the first bush I extracted, which required the planning and efforts of D-Day, had never seen copper grease in its life. Fused rigid. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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9th Jan 2025 10:57am |
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| revd Member Since: 20 Apr 2024 Location: England Posts: 150
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Advice given to me by a LR suspension guru was to stick with OE, especially for the axle ends of the hockey sticks - they tried polybush at Solihull and were not satisfied with all aspects of its performance. It’s not a job I’m doing for a while so I will cross this bridge when I come to it. The quality of available metalastic replacements will be the deciding factor.
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9th Jan 2025 12:31pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5858
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Thanks Revd. Yup, have heard the poly vs OE argument before, for many bushes not just the ones we’re talking about.
Amusing that you say that Solihull weren’t happy with all aspects of its performance, given they didn’t seem to give a fig about the Defender’s performance for the last 20+ years of its, ahem, ‘development’. More likely than not, the performance they were talking about was in the ‘how is this expensive to build’ vehicle performing on the accounts department’s spreadsheet. In that regard, poly would have been a far worse performer than the parts bin downstairs with thousands of OE bushes already in stock…. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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9th Jan 2025 2:36pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1790 
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Best of luck with this, I did most of mine 10 years or so ago on a block paved drive in the winter in the UK, but I did have a substantial vice in the garage, also a compressor, an air wrench and a good selection of 'stuff' (but no press) that helped.
Just giving it another birthday / Christmas treat now, clutch, check the intermediate shaft, new 1 piece drive shafts and all new poly bushes, this time in France, in my barn with a very old but functional 4 post ramp - its still a bar steward! Poly bushes are easier to change than the OE Metalastik but still take some heavy threaded bar and various tubes, sockets and a heavy vice. On reassembly this time I'm using every single packet of the grease that comes with the bushes, masses of copper slip between bolts and steel sleeves then working spare dinitrol around every joint with a brush to try and keep the water and crud out! Hopefully be good for another 10 years. |
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9th Jan 2025 6:21pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1790
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P.S. If you can get a full set of poly bushes fitted properly for 600€ in France (2 men x 3 hours x 100€) I'd be amazed!
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9th Jan 2025 6:25pm |
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