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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829   
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You can now change your profile name from LRNewbie to LRpainfullyexperienced
  Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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1st Dec 2023 1:20pm |
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| LRNewbie Member Since: 08 Jan 2021 Location: Berkshire Posts: 26  
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Well said Grenadier .....or perhaps LRFinanciallyDepleted
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1st Dec 2023 1:58pm |
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| mini Anaconda Member Since: 23 Aug 2016 Location: Thames Valley Posts: 784
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Glad you are sorted David.
BORG - Bucks & Oxon 4x4 Response Group
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1st Dec 2023 3:35pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2031
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Thanks for the update David. The EGR cooler on the 2.2 is a known issue so useful to know that your indi has pointed to that as the primary cause. I’m assuming they believe a leaking cooler pressurised the engine and the head gasket failed due to that. Given they are changing the cooler I would advise you have a new EGR fitted as they do fail and on the 2.2 are a very fiddly part to replace on there own, but if the HG and cooler are being replaced it’s easy. Note pierburg make the EGR for ford and LR and getting a pierburg boxed EGR is less than half the price, circa £120. The pierburg part number is on the EGR, alongside the ford number. I changed my EGR about 2 years ago, so now thinking I should change the cooler as a preventative measure given your and BaronDefenders experience. |
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1st Dec 2023 4:44pm |
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| LRNewbie Member Since: 08 Jan 2021 Location: Berkshire Posts: 26
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Thanks Ian! - I have asked the garage if they can also replace the EGR as it makes sense whilst other works facilitate easier (hopefully) less costly replacement.
Just need to win the lottery now to fund it all  |
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1st Dec 2023 10:40pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2031
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I feel for you David. it’s a labour not parts expense , so even having an indi doing it is going to make a dent in your finances
The only solace is your vehicle has probably not deprecated at all since you purchased it, so the few £k you are spending is far less than other basic vehicles would have deprecated during your period of ownership. |
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2nd Dec 2023 12:53am |
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| LRNewbie Member Since: 08 Jan 2021 Location: Berkshire Posts: 26
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Thannk you Ian - as you say it is the labour costs that accrue rapidly specifically on a job estimated at 15hrs.
Given the pleasure the LR gives me it is a cost worth paying and is 'relatively' modest when compared to the costs I have spent on upgrading her e.g new suspension, sound proofing, new seats, matting the tub, ...etc Looking forward to having her back and going for a long drive in the country  |
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2nd Dec 2023 11:00am |
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| LRNewbie Member Since: 08 Jan 2021 Location: Berkshire Posts: 26
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Finally have my LR back having had the Cylinder Head Gasket, EGR Cooler, EGR Valve replaced, together with a new Auxillary belt. Not sure why the latter had to be replaced as I had it done on last service in May - nevertheless was replaced under warranty.
Took her for a careful drive for an hour yesterday, keeping close eye on temparatures and not pushing her too hard. Great to have her back 
I will keep a close eye on coolant use and have acquired some of the Coma Super LongLife Red. I presume a dilution of 50:50 with deionised water is the way to go for future top ups? David |
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18th Dec 2023 12:16pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2031
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Yes a 50:50 mix of concentrated coolant and deionised water is correct.
Do you know what coolant the Indi used when they replaced the coolant ? As best to use the exact same if needing topping up, which, by the way, should not need doing now. Ps. Ford and landrover badged coolant is the same and orange in colour. It’s actually Texaco Delo XLC. |
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18th Dec 2023 1:34pm |
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| LRNewbie Member Since: 08 Jan 2021 Location: Berkshire Posts: 26
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Ian thank you for confirming.
I do not know what coolant the Indie used but will of course ask. Good to know about the Texaco Delo XLC as standard. Thank you for your help, and advice - it has been invaluable! Wishing you and all on the forum a Sparkling Christmas and Memorable New Year! David |
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18th Dec 2023 2:21pm |
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| macfrank Member Since: 05 Nov 2015 Location: somewhere in the north Posts: 1081  
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Last year coolant dropped a little bit and as I coulnd't find the Texaco XLC I used "Motul 111051 Auto Cool Optimal" which has the same spec (8WSS-M97B44-D) and is pre-mixed to -37°C. Coolant didn't drop again since then, but thanks for the advice re EGR cooler! |
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19th Dec 2023 7:50pm |
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| BaronDefenders Member Since: 28 Jun 2019 Location: London/Cotswolds Posts: 897 
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Glad to hear you got this sorted. It was interesting to read that you had the same issue as me, which points to the EGR cooler’s failure being more serious than some had previously thought. Charlie
1949 Series 1 80 (SOLD) 2002 Td5 90 (SOLD) 2008 Freelander 2 (SOLD) 1958 Series 2 88 Pastel Green (2019 LR Legends Best Restored) 1983 V8 110 Limestone (Previously owned by Tom Sheppard MBE) 2004 Td5 90 Santorini Black (Td5INSIDE Powered & Rebuilt by CSK) 2012 Puma 110 Zermatt Silver (Overlanding Build) Instagram: @BaronDefenders |
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20th Dec 2023 9:12am |
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| LRNewbie Member Since: 08 Jan 2021 Location: Berkshire Posts: 26
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Thanks Charlie. Likewise hope all well with your stable of LR's.
David |
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21st Dec 2023 10:50pm |
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