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alexatnd

Member Since: 19 May 2015
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 278

Anti roll bar installation

Hi all,

Just installing some britpart front and rear nti-roll-bars on my 110 and got a coiuple of concerns

1). images rear_arb_[235] show the current setup ( before tightening anything up). Main concert is the horizontal bit of the ARB that presses against the fuel tank cover. If you look at the chassi mount "U" brackets, there's a fairly large gap to get rid off by tightening up the bracket bolts. If i torque them up to the ricgt seting, should I be concerned about how close the arb gets to the tank cover

2). images front_arb_[12] are of the fromt ARB. The poly bushes used are britpart as supplied with the kit. .... I'm assuming that the holes in the bush along the bottom are there to allow bush compression , but does seem a lot of bush to compress ...

Click image to enlarge

Click image to enlarge Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County

9th Jun 2022 8:21am

excossack

Member Since: 22 Feb 2012
Location: North West
Posts: 5850

1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue

This is mine rear ARB if it helps.(TD5 110)
The gap will closed up as you tighten up the bolts. From memory when I did mine (standard bushes) I did the bolts up in an even fashion to close the gap up.

Click image to enlarge 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock

9th Jun 2022 8:48am

alexatnd

Member Since: 19 May 2015
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 278

ok thanks, looks like youve got more room between the ARB and the fuel tank cover. Just need a couple more nuts then ill tighten things down and see what happens Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County

9th Jun 2022 9:02am

rallysteve

Member Since: 10 Feb 2014
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 2237

2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Keswick Green

Alex,

You dont have a suspension lift on yours do you? The higher the rear suspension, the more rotated the rear ARB will be and the closer it will be to the tank cradle.

Cheers,
Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread

9th Jun 2022 9:10am

alexatnd

Member Since: 19 May 2015
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 278

Hi,
Nope bog standard (at moment) when it comes to suspension. Uprated normal height springs and Koni shocks in the pipeline Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County

9th Jun 2022 11:34am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17443

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Re: Anti roll bar installation

alexatnd wrote:

Click image to enlarge

Your front one is incorrectly installed anyway. At the front, the ARB end of the drop links should be the top, the axle end of the drop link the bottom (The front ARB should be above the track rod). For the rear ARB it is the other way round.

9th Jun 2022 3:16pm

Linds Hanson

Member Since: 16 Jan 2021
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 486

Front bars on upside down, should be above track bar too

9th Jun 2022 4:27pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2841

Looks like you've fitted the front ARB drop links below instead of above the mountings. lf it makes you feel any better, l did exactly the same when l installed mine.

I also had the same issue with the rear ARB touching the fuel tank cover. Eventually l binned the Britpart and fitted a genuine Land Rover rear ARB and that was fine, didn't touch the cover.

9th Jun 2022 9:12pm

alexatnd

Member Since: 19 May 2015
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 278

Many thanks everyone, much appreciated . Help i get from this list is just what I need. ok can fix the front.

All i can say is a picture would have been worth 1000 words ... pity britpart didnt put an in their fitting instructions !

sadly, re the rear, unless done sonething stupid (again) even the LR part is too near the fuel tank cover, there is about 3mm between the bar and it. if the bar twists then its going to push against the fuel tank

Rgds
Alex Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County

12th Jun 2022 5:29pm

alexatnd

Member Since: 19 May 2015
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 278

excossack wrote:
This is mine rear ARB if it helps.(TD5 110)
The gap will closed up as you tighten up the bolts. From memory when I did mine (standard bushes) I did the bolts up in an even fashion to close the gap up.

Click image to enlarge

Hi Johm.
Quick question. you've got loads of space between tank and ARB but looks as if you don't have the fuyel tank cover there. Is that the case?

Rgds
Alex Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County

12th Jun 2022 5:43pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17443

It's easy to make some spacers to fit between the rear bushes and their mounting brackets to drop the bar away from the tank.

For the record my 2007 110 was identical to John's (with the rather feeble and rust-prone LR tank guard) and had similar clearance to that in the photo. I subsequently fitted a YRM alloy tank guard (infinitely better than the original) and that fits with clearance too.

I'm not sure why yours is so different, but anything is possible with Britpart.

12th Jun 2022 7:05pm

alexatnd

Member Since: 19 May 2015
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 278

yesh, but a LR version was as bad Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County

12th Jun 2022 7:29pm

alexatnd

Member Since: 19 May 2015
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 278

blackwolf wrote:
It's easy to make some spacers to fit between the rear bushes and their mounting brackets to drop the bar away from the tank.

For the record my 2007 110 was identical to John's (with the rather feeble and rust-prone LR tank guard) and had similar clearance to that in the photo. I subsequently fitted a YRM alloy tank guard (infinitely better than the original) and that fits with clearance too.

I'm not sure why yours is so different, but anything is possible with Britpart.

ok my tank guard is on its last legs as well, ill look at the YRM guard thx Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County

12th Jun 2022 7:31pm

donmacn

Member Since: 06 Nov 2017
Location: Nth Scotland
Posts: 1845

blackwolf wrote:
It's easy to make some spacers to fit between the rear bushes and their mounting brackets to drop the bar away from the tank.

This is what I did. I found that, when the car was more than lightly loaded, the standard ARB would foul the tank guard. I just got some bits of 10mm alu and cut them to shape - easy enough with the tools I have. If they ever need replacing I could do them in something else but a couple of years in they're fine. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...

13th Jun 2022 2:50pm

alexatnd

Member Since: 19 May 2015
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 278

Course if I'd looked at the LRWorkshop site the diag shows the correct way to mount the ARB

I'll get the front sorted then mesure up some spacers for the back end Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost
Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County

13th Jun 2022 4:12pm

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