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| CR Member Since: 28 Jan 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 947   
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maybe they should let VW do the new design they seem to understand !
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13th Sep 2011 4:36pm |
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| Landie Boy Member Since: 14 Jan 2011 Location: Essex Posts: 431  
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmcMV200P6o
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13th Sep 2011 5:39pm |
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| eutek Member Since: 03 Mar 2009 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 586 
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Apparently he has no qualms with imitating the present; the DC100 concept looks like they copied a Yeti and a Nike trainer. Pompous arse. |
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13th Sep 2011 5:58pm |
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| SteveT247 Member Since: 21 Feb 2011 Location: Central Posts: 491  
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No, I've always found them perfectly comfortable too, even on long journeys. |
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13th Sep 2011 6:10pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5787 
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I agree. Last holiday was 6400 miles, and I loved every minute.
Why are all these people driving vehicles that they think are uncomfortable, slow, poorly built, unreliable ect. I don't understand 
There are plenty of others out there I wish land rover would just let it die. The new mini is nothing like the old and the same with the beetle, and I would be seen in either of the pieces of cack. Andy |
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13th Sep 2011 6:23pm |
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| pcoote Member Since: 01 Aug 2010 Location: Oxford Posts: 83
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They have really lost the plot, what's wrong with the Defender Mk1 eyeball, I always found that reliable and lots of fun too. |
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13th Sep 2011 6:27pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150 
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I do about 350-400 miles a day in mine, or upto 9 hours...it is NOT uncomfortable. Hell, even my old IIA is not uncomfortable, I don't know what these people want... 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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13th Sep 2011 6:37pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4731
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Having looked at the above, has anyone any idea as to how many possible fault codes there could be? The phrase about talking to customers about what they would like in the new vehicle keeps cropping up. No one from Solihull has contacted me. If they read this forum, and others they would not have to employ expensive market research companies to get the answers they want.I think they want to know what the prospective non Defender owners want to make them buy one.They are not interested in the 20.000 sales a year they have but in the 100,000 sales a year they they want to have. I honestly cannot see any of existing customers asking for a higher level of electronics. This is clearly aimed at the non Defender owner who does not want to have to make a decision as to when to engage the diff lock, but would rather sit in and let the ECU and a myriad of sensors and gadgets do the thinking for him, or her. It is quite possible that the new vehicle will be a killer vehicle and leave us all stunned. Personally I think it should be developed then sold along side of the existing Defender for a few years until it is phased out. It should not be called a Defender but something else. Solihull should just admit that due to various reasons the Defender has had (or will have) it's day or rather six decades and let it phase out gracefully. I find the current vehicle extremely comfortable and more than fit for purpose. To me they could save a fortune on design costs by taking the existing shape or shell and starting with it' figure out how to make it fit for purpose to comply with the plethora of legislative drivel out there. Funny, anytime I have gone to anyone's assistance whether they be stuck in snow, a non starting tractor or just broken down, no one has ever asked me as to whether the Land Rover complies with this regulation or that level of emissions. They were just glad to see the Defender coming. Anyway time will tell and if we are still on board this forum in 2015 it will make for some interesting reading. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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13th Sep 2011 6:45pm |
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| Fox Member Since: 26 Aug 2010 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 72
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It's not the seats that are uncomfortable, it's the cramped interior and not particularly good ergonomics for people of a certain size/shape. |
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13th Sep 2011 7:03pm |
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| cinstone Member Since: 29 Nov 2010 Location: Stourbridge Posts: 375 
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They ask for feedback and questions, yet answer nothing. The statement "...not retro..." answers it all!
Not that it could be retro as the current model still, err.... exists. Chris. http://shropshirelandrovers.freeforums.org 2015 Defender 90 XS SW & Helen, 1964 IIa. Previously 2012 Defender 90 XS SW & 2008 90 XS SW. Previous LR's: Michael, my 2008 Defender 90 XS SW. Machinas oportet intrare non capsicum annuum faveo |
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13th Sep 2011 7:04pm |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 422 
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Totally agree. I've been driving day after day in a TD5 and, once you get used to it, did not find it the slightest bit uncomfortable. In fact, I enjoyed climbing into it, every single time. Many other cars have given me sore backs. Not the Defender. |
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13th Sep 2011 7:16pm |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 422
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I still don't understand why they feel the need to go all "lifestyle" and completely get out of the remnants of the commercial market they still have. That's what makes Land Rover feel 'real' and proper. And 20K sales is still 20K sales. I'd much rather they figured out why they've lost so much to other competitors, who are definitely still aggressively pursuing that market. So if all the other car manufacturers want a piece of it, surely it can't be that bad a market?
There are loads of people around the world who would love a Defender, but either can't get one at all (US) or are put off by their bad reputation for reliability (true or not, who knows). |
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13th Sep 2011 7:19pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150
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I find that, every vauxhall I have ever drive has hurt my back. I am lucky I suppose in that I fit quite nicely into a Defender, I do sympathise will big or tall people who I suppose will struggle. The only thing it desperately needs ergonomics wise is somewhere to rest your left foot when cruising, and possibly bigger footwells to stretch out on a rest break. Being able to move the seats back a bit further would be useful for the same reason. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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13th Sep 2011 7:20pm |
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| Ads90 Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds Posts: 812 
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And somewhere for the right shoulder, right leg and right arm... And somewhere for your knees would be nice. And a less jarring ride. But I agree - the seat itself is fine! 
I think the upright posture of a Defender does suit a lot of people more so than the reclined nature of most cars (myself included)... Although it is cramped it's still surprisingly 'comfy', like an old pair of boots. |
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13th Sep 2011 8:49pm |
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