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familymad



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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
just proves JLR could have produced a successor to the Defender. The pickup looked awesome too.

I’m in. 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
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V8_110



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United Kingdom 1986 Defender 110 V8 Petrol CSW Corris Grey
Stacey007 wrote:


How much are these going to be, and what engines?

Overall having just seen the new Defender yesterday, this looks very promising indeed.




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From what autocar are saying it looks as if they will be using bmw 3.0d as found in the 530d known as the B57 so it will probably be mated to the zf8hp
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RDR



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Like it and might well plonk for one, maybe a little underwhelmed with the styling its what I would have imagined a Chinese copy of the defender might look like they could have gone a little more individual and maybe then not have to worry about JLRs legal bouncers who are no doubt in a very long meeting this morning. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
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D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
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jav-uk



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England 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Alpine White
"The king is dead..... long live the new king"

Great job by Jim and his team. Martin... have you registered a new domain?

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2020 Evoque
* 2014 110 SW JE Stage 2.
*2010 110 Utility. JE Stage 2.
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Now the skirt line is starting to impress me ~ looks strong, clean and able to take a few knocks without ripping off large sections of superficial plastic.

And JATE rings, it has JATE rings both front and rear. Bow down Laughing
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RDR



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given Ineos seem to be flush at the moment maybe they should buy Land Rover out of the JLR tangle they are in. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Bluericky wrote:
This Grenadier is great , Such a shame it doesn’t have a green oval .


I'm over that, they did have plenty of time to do it right and kept choking. It was well past Censored or get off the pot time for them.
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RDR



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I'm looking but can't seem to see anything on Safety specs? have the revealed anything? Airbags? Crash test designs etc? 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
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milesr3



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I like it. Looking forward to seeing the inside.

The grille/bonnet is a bit bulbous but if it were any squarer then it would be almost indistinguishable from a Defender!

If the engine/drivetrain are as good quality as expected, then it will be a cut-price G-Wagon.
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LandRoverAnorak



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RDR wrote:
I'm looking but can't seem to see anything on Safety specs? have the revealed anything? Airbags? Crash test designs etc?

They haven't released that kind of detail yet. This exercise was just to show what it'll look like. Darren

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tango90



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I think it looks great an amalgamation of the Defender and G Wagon and proof that Land Rover or McGovern was full of it with the line they took about not being possible to keep the Iconic shape and functionality of the Defender alive. The interview with Toby Ecuyer the designer of the Grenadier was brilliant none of the pretentious tripe we had to listen to from McGovern. Toby GETS the fact that every owner will want to adapt the vehicle to their individual taste and needs and they celebrate that and include it in the design criteria.
My only slight dislike is also the front grill does look a little out of proportion but I am sure there is sound reasoning for that.
Well done and all the best INEOS.
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Oakseywick



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United Kingdom 2000 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Java Black
I like it side on and rear great just got to get used to the front but would get my choice over new defender Thumbs Up Andy
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Finchy13



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Firenze Red
This gets my vote!
While it does look slightly "copycat" from some angles, what else did anyone really expect? Ineos did try to get the design rights for the old Defender after all. It was always going to be a boxy 4x4 with design ques taken from the other proven utility 4x4's.

But its all about whats underneath and a car built from the ground up by engineers and not designers is a win in my book!
Plus you can buy it online Laughing Thumbs Up
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
RDR wrote:
given Ineos seem to be flush at the moment maybe they should buy Land Rover out of the JLR tangle they are in.


That would be wonderfully ironic!
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defender9



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
It looks very impressive and purposeful. Get the build quality and the price right and I’m sure they are on to a winner.
Post #840945 1st Jul 2020 9:26am
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