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| Mdm Member Since: 11 Sep 2013 Location: Sunny Lancashire Posts: 1599  
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behind my old 110
 Click image to enlarge but fine behind a 90 as well great trls Click image to enlarge |
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14th Apr 2020 7:46pm |
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| Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674  
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Excellent trailer, towed them for many miles over all terrain
 I’ve only towed with a Wolf so the NATO hutch being higher on the crossmember than a civilian tow bar, must admit I’ve been toying with the idea of one for a while. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html 110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html 52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html D3 Hse - Fiona Capri 2l S - Anna Think I might have a problem............ |
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14th Apr 2020 8:57pm |
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| Matt110 Member Since: 29 Jun 2014 Location: UK Posts: 680
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Are they the same width as a defender or wider? Can't make it out from the photo.
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17th Apr 2020 2:01pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Yes. The wheel track is the same, too, as like the Sankeys before them they were designed to be towed by Land Rovers. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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17th Apr 2020 2:48pm |
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| Devon-Rover Member Since: 22 Jan 2015 Location: South Devon Posts: 916 
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Great bit of kit
Click image to enlarge Tows nicely, follows the landy well and does offroad too. Also can be found on Fb, Ytube, Insta & Twitter @4WDSouthwest |
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17th Apr 2020 4:37pm |
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| Thon Member Since: 22 Nov 2015 Location: Salisbury Plain Posts: 696
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Mine (for sale too):-
Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Tows brilliantly, reversing is a learned art, as robust as a tank 
110 has standard springs, 7.50 x 16 tyres and hitch directly mounted onto the crossmember (using the usual backing plate now). They seem to tow nose-down on Wolf Defenders too - presumably by design. |
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17th Apr 2020 7:01pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6092 
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^^^ Lovely. Cool 110 too, wish I'd fitted a camel cage to mine instead of a full external.
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17th Apr 2020 8:25pm |
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| seriesonenut Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Essex Posts: 1211
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There are one or two good deals on Penman trailers out there at the moment. I was looking at how they sit behind a Defender and all have a downward slant towards the towing vehicle. The military fit the hook direct to the rear crossmember. For those of you with one do you think my set up would be too low to tow safely?
Click image to enlargepct by Richard Holmes, on Flickr 2010 XS USW 1957 Series One 88 diesel 1958 Series One 88 4x2 |
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1st Jul 2020 10:06pm |
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| Thon Member Since: 22 Nov 2015 Location: Salisbury Plain Posts: 696
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Your hitch is mounted where most people mount them. It looks to be about 2 inches lower than mine so I don't think it will be much of a problem, particularly if you have some weight in the trailer to compress the suspension somewhat.
You also have the added benefit that you don't need to remove your spare wheel when towing. Click image to enlarge |
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1st Jul 2020 10:39pm |
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| Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674
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Your set up doesn’t look much lower so I can’t see an issue
I’ll happily be corrected but I’m sure a lot tow with a similar set up. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html 90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html 110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html 52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html D3 Hse - Fiona Capri 2l S - Anna Think I might have a problem............ |
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1st Jul 2020 10:41pm |
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| Thon Member Since: 22 Nov 2015 Location: Salisbury Plain Posts: 696
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Careful what you wish for. That design is a major pain in the arse with a Puma, but nice once it's fitted though. |
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1st Jul 2020 10:42pm |
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| Devon-Rover Member Since: 22 Jan 2015 Location: South Devon Posts: 916
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In my picture above that is where I had my hitch setup. Never had a problem towing it like that. Also can be found on Fb, Ytube, Insta & Twitter @4WDSouthwest |
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2nd Jul 2020 5:29am |
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| Mdm Member Since: 11 Sep 2013 Location: Sunny Lancashire Posts: 1599
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they are designed to tow nose down.
having used mine at speed loaded and empty without issue it doesn't seem to change how it tows if its a tad lower on the back of a 110 as long as the hitch is free to rotate. |
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2nd Jul 2020 7:34am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17382 
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I don't think you'll have any problems at all with that configuration, but an alternative you could consider is simply to turn the slider plate the other way up. For a Penman the pintle will be free to rotate anyway, so you wouldn't even need to unbolt it and turn it over, and flipping the slider will raise the pintle by at least 2".
Before you throw your hands in the air and decide that I have gone barmy (after all the slider is clearly marked "top" at the top suggesting that it must be used one particular way up), this suggestion was actually made to me by the boffins a Dixon Bate back in the day when DB not only had boffins but were actually knowledgeable and helpful, ie before the last take-over (after which they have raised unhelpful uselessness to an art form). I wouldn't want to use the slider upside-down for a heavy trailer or one with an exceptionally high nose-weight, but a Penman or Sankey is a puny trailer by trailer standards and the coupling loadings are not large. |
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2nd Jul 2020 7:56am |
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