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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5006  
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THEY DON'T SEAL THEM FROM NEW!
So water just sits under the rubber! A morning spent with window sealant (get the sticky stuff!) is VERY advisable or get your local fitter to do it for about £50. It stops corrosion and leaks and you can replace any cracking rubbers at the same time 
I replaced the cracking window rubbers on my 4 year old TD5 and discovered the frame had rotted right through  If any damage is done to the paint work when the window was fitted at the factory it just starts rotting from the get go! You only see it when you take out the rubber. If you discover your frame is badly rotten it's not the end of the world. As with all things Defender it can be easily unbolted and replaced
Sealant can be got from here http://www.frost.co.uk/automotive-windscre...ealer.html
Tricky, messy, fiddly job by the way for the practically challenged...some areas are hard to reach and fiddly to get into (under the very bottom of the front window rubber for instance...£50 for someone to do it for you is money well spent. |
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4th Jun 2011 9:29am |
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| Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266 
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Z,it's only 30 months old ! 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up. |
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4th Jun 2011 11:21am |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5006
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I know it's disappointing but ultimately a new frame isn't too much of a hassle to sort and if they treat the rust properly rather than just covering it with new top coat paint each time it might be OK - push for a NEW frame, they will need to take the window out to do a proper job and it's likely you will only go back with the same problem in a few months time so it would be better for them to do the right thing and change the frame
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4th Jun 2011 11:32am |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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I put a lot of waxoyl inside the bulkhead anywhere, under the seals also.......
So I'm hoping that will be sufficient........ Still not cracking seal yet ...... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition 
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4th Jun 2011 1:07pm |
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| Scallops Member Since: 15 Aug 2007 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 89 
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Heya Grock! Did the dealers pick this up when they did their "annual corrosion inspection", or was it down to your own diligence?
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8th Jun 2011 11:55pm |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 538  
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Pardon my ignorance, but are you talking about the bulkhead or the front window frame?
The bulkhead is steel so it can rust, but as far as I can see the window frame does seem to be made of steel nor iron(looks like some sort of alloy?). |
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9th Jun 2011 8:59am |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5006
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Ofourdan I thought the same as it is so soft. I hand drilled mine to put the snorkel on and it was so soft I was convinced it was alloy of some sort but then thought it couldn't be if some are rusting and my TD5 one was definitely steel as it rotted before my eye's
Either way I am going to pick up a spare one for the future along with other spares and panels if they ever come up cheap.... |
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9th Jun 2011 1:06pm |
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| party monkey Member Since: 31 Dec 2010 Location: Oxon. Posts: 1311  
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Oh the irony.......
Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless. |
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9th Jun 2011 1:19pm |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 538
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Just try with a magnet, it's definitely not steel  Anyway, alloys can corrode as well, but it's not rust, it's another form of corrosion. |
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9th Jun 2011 1:22pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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The screen frame itself is cast alloy. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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9th Jun 2011 1:26pm |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5006
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Thats really good news
 another improvement over my 01 TD5 - didn't need to seal the front window but can't hurt. One less rust spot to worry about Wonder when they brought that in! |
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9th Jun 2011 1:40pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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I don't recall any of the standard Defender style Land Rover windscreen frames that have owned or worked on been made of anything else. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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9th Jun 2011 1:47pm |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248  
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Corroded windscreen frame is one item on a long list of corroded/rusted parts being looked at by my dealer next week when mine is in for it's 2 year service.
Bob |
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9th Jun 2011 1:49pm |
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| Shax Member Since: 05 Oct 2010 Location: London Posts: 391 
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A teeny weeny bit off topic, but have a look at this :
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