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hank

Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
Posts: 2298

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Difference between ABS and non-ABS axles

Hello, quite a specific one for you today...

There is only one part number listed for front driveshaft assemblies; TDB500280 (RHS) and TDB500290 (LHS)

Some research suggests these are suitable for both ABS and non-ABS models. Having seen a shaft, the ABS reluctor ring is machined into the shaft which suggests the ABS reluctor ring must be present in non-ABS axles and is just not used/sensed on non ABS models.

So is it reasonable to assume that a non-ABS axle can be converted to an ABS axle by simply fitting an ABS upper swivel king pin (the type with the hole for the ABS sensor) and an ABS sensor?

24th Apr 2018 7:44am

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

So is it reasonable to assume that a non-ABS axle can be converted to an ABS axle by simply fitting an ABS upper swivel king pin (the type with the hole for the ABS sensor) and an ABS sensor?

yes

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ABS reluctor ring is machined into the CV

Last edited by dorsetsmith on 24th Apr 2018 8:01am. Edited 3 times in total

24th Apr 2018 7:55am

hank

Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
Posts: 2298

Sound, thank you

24th Apr 2018 7:59am

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
Posts: 2039

Without abs CV's are stronger.

Click image to enlarge Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)

24th Apr 2018 10:41am

hank

Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
Posts: 2298

Roel, that must be a pre 2007 non Puma CV?

24th Apr 2018 10:47am

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
Posts: 2039

Yep td5, but are they different except for the abs? My td5 doesn't have abs so I don't need the cut outs.

My experiences:

ABS CV:

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Non ABS CV:

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With the none ABS only the internal break.

But now I have Aschroft front and rear. Yep it is an investment, but if they give 5 year waranty with 35" tyres that I use I am sure they will be OK. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)

24th Apr 2018 12:45pm

hank

Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
Posts: 2298

Further to this, I removed the upper king pins from a Puma axle to find non-ABS shafts...

So don't assume all Puma axles have ABS type shafts!

27th Apr 2018 10:10am

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

on 07 Puma LRJ may have been using up none abs axle from stock

27th Apr 2018 11:12am

hank

Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
Posts: 2298

It is an early Puma axle so quite possible

27th Apr 2018 11:41am

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