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geobloke



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Well it has been a while since my last Miffy update and to be honest not a great amount has been done due to the horrendous weather. Outdoors wrenching is not all sunshine and roses you know...

Miffy got a few christmas presents this year and they are excellent excellent gifts. The first is a pair of Gwyn Lewis' wheel arch guards to prevent too much crud building up on the rear cross member and the other ones were a trifecta of Mudstuff TD5 switches and switch panel. Oh and pair os Mechanix (yes that is spelt correctly) gloves to work in and perhaps reduce the amount of disposable gloves I go through in a year.


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The plan is to replace the carling switches in the dash top gauge pod and re-situate them down to the centre dash where the bland off panel (below the stereo) is. Plus they are OE LR looking switches and it will look great.


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The space in the dash top pod will be filled with a Roverdrive temperature gauge which I picked up before Christmas. It is used but in great shape, just needs a new reducer nut to fit into the extended LT230 sump drain hole. Need to source that.


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Along with that I sourced a sight glass for the standard LT230 fill hole. With the overdrive fitted there is about 3 litres more oil in there so the fill plug is not required anymore and this will allow for quick sight checks whilst underneath.


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Then there is the engine bay fuse and relay box, which will be hidden away. This was a big ticket item as it is a weather sealed unit, but will allow for the destroyed headlight loom to be re-installed and for the various other accessory relays and fuses to be collated together in one place, including the front spots, Optimill washer loom and leaving enough relays and fuses for the roof spots and seen lights. Going to be superb...


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So far I have rewired the first and forth relay to be the dipped and main beam relays for the headlight looms. Next it will be getting this relay/fuse box into position and wired up to the battery. I do still need an earth bus bar to source mind you.

Exciting times. I am looking forward to having tidy and properly fused accessories and enough light to reverse without blindly guessing at what lurks in the darkness. Goodness the Wiper LED reverse light is weak.

There is more but I will add that in a little bit.
Post #1021560 17th Jan 2024 6:15pm
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geobloke



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Now on to the not so good bit about the holiday season...


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Yup that's right... Balls... Car parks are bad places. Bad bad bad places. Looks like something just snagged on the seam popping the rivets and irritatingly shearing at the second rivet. So, I am going to need a replacement corner finisher, but it will have to wait until the weather improves as painting at the moment is just not going to happen. Way to cold.

Thankfully the larger panel was not damaged, just the corner piece. Oh and the reflector. One dead reflector. For now I will re-rivet the panel in place. But I am not a happy Defender owner.
Post #1021575 17th Jan 2024 7:27pm
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geobloke



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Well I think I have managed to source the correct 3/8NPT male to 3/8 BSP female adapter for the temperature probe... Possibly.

And Mudstuff are posting out a replacement MudPod plastic upper so I can re-jig that bit of the setup. I seem to remember that the pod is a right sod to cut though. I have a feeling it was drills and hole saws rather than stanley blades.
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geobloke



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But... something I should have done first is test the gauge... I have workman in the house banging and crashing around this morning so excuse the multiple posts...

This is a mechanical temperature gauge, not one with an electrical sensor so no battery required. Best way to test this is to dunk the probe into a pan of water and wait until it boils. So that is what I did.


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Well that worked out for the best... and Phew...
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geobloke



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Ah it is what it is, but I came back to it over the Christmas week. Crying or Very sad

Thankfully it has only popped the rivets and it is only the capping that has been damaged. I will wait until the warmer months and paint a new one up and replace it. As you say a pain... but it will probably force me to sort the tub capping as well at the same time. Thumbs Up
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3m Blue tape would be ideal for that paint job when the time comes to neatly isolate the side panel.
Gives a superb clean edge, but comes off safely without bubbling or pulling up when painted.
Light plastic masking film to cover everything else, you can use paper mask but involves a lot of extra masking to keep it in place.

That’s what I use anyway, everyone has different ideas and products but like you say weather outdoor is critical but isn’t ideal for contamination without a cleanly paint booth but for a small area should sort that out.
You can get matching rivets for those also, I did have a few left over you could have but unfortunately I have no idea as to where they are currently or much hope in finding them but the dia and head matches the factory’s rivets.
Just be extra sure not to enlarge the holes when drilling the river centre out and protect the surrounding paint in case the drill bit snapped or anything slipped, or drill bit decides to go for a wander quite literally. Rolling Eyes

I tend to go for acid etch primer, then an epoxy primer that acts as a sealer, then the base then clear.
Might be able to get away with etch primer only there. Thumbs Up

Be careful that the paint matches first too, I’ve found in 90% of the time the match is bang on but some places get it slightly to light or dark. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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geobloke wrote:


Well that worked out for the best... and Phew...


I see it still says "Rover Drive" which I understand they got contacted about by the Land Rover lawyers so they changed to Roamerdrive.
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geobloke



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I believe this might be an older gauge Rolling Eyes But it is still functional and will mean I have one temp sender int he LT230 and one in the R380 Thumbs Up
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geobloke



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custom90steve wrote:
3m Blue tape would be ideal for that paint job when the time comes to neatly isolate the side panel.
Gives a superb clean edge, but comes off safely without bubbling or pulling up when painted.
Light plastic masking film to cover everything else, you can use paper mask but involves a lot of extra masking to keep it in place.

That’s what I use anyway, everyone has different ideas and products but like you say weather outdoor is critical but isn’t ideal for contamination without a cleanly paint booth but for a small area should sort that out.
You can get matching rivets for those also, I did have a few left over you could have but unfortunately I have no idea as to where they are currently or much hope in finding them but the dia and head matches the factory’s rivets.
Just be extra sure not to enlarge the holes when drilling the river centre out and protect the surrounding paint in case the drill bit snapped or anything slipped, or drill bit decides to go for a wander quite literally. Rolling Eyes

I tend to go for acid etch primer, then an epoxy primer that acts as a sealer, then the base then clear.
Might be able to get away with etch primer only there. Thumbs Up

Be careful that the paint matches first too, I’ve found in 90% of the time the match is bang on but some places get it slightly to light or dark.


Thanks Steve. I seem to recall a post or two when you have repainted parts of the guttering. I think I am right in that recollection.

I already have the rivets thankfully as I have only recently fitted replacement c-pillar triangular panels. Thumbs Up

What I have always wondered and have no idea about, happy to admit that, is how do you blend new paint with old paint...?! I could really do with watching someone do it first Rolling Eyes Anyway I have time because this has to be done outside and that cannot happen until Easter at the earliest.
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geobloke



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Well, it snowed... goodness I miss having a roof to work under.


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Yesterday evening I wired up the headlight loom to the new relay/fuse box and I was well chuffed with myself. Popped out at lunchtime to have a trial fit and realised the relay box is just too big under the wing top vent. So a better place was found between the winch solenoid pack and the brake master cylinder. It fits really well here and the waterproofing will help a lot in this position. The upside is that wiring up the various relays and fuses will be fairly straight forward with the wing top vent removed. The downside is that all of my efforts yesterday needed to be adjusted as now the loom was just a smidge too short. Balls. Out with the soldering iron again. It will be a super modification when it is done and if Miffy has to move on to somewhere else it is all standalone and she can easily be returned to stock.


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I am really hoping that this remote relay box sorts out the drop in voltage to the LED headlights and the flickering it causes. After the headlight loom it is on to the other accessories and the tidying up of the wiring in the engine bay.

Oh and the newly painted wing top chequer plates were put back on as well since I was in the region.
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Can I ask the source of your sealed relay box please? It looks rather good.
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geobloke



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Mis-post.... Thumbs Up Rolling Eyes

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Post #1021689 18th Jan 2024 6:21pm
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geobloke



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blackwolf wrote:
Can I ask the source of your sealed relay box please? It looks rather good.


Hi Blackwolf. Yes I am rather pleased with the relay box. It was apparently made in the USA. I did a heap of research on what to use and the clincher was the pre-wired and waterproofing of this box. It was not overly cheap, but not overly expensive either.

This is it, I managed to get it on Amazon, although it is available elsewhere https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0CDZC...8&th=1

There is even a 5% off at the moment. Cheaper as a kit, but I went for the wired version.
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geobloke



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Ah I knew I took a photo of the box it came in here you go, made in California.


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