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K9F



Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Spare Wheel Security.
I personally have adopted the 'layered approach to security. See link below. This has included such things as a barrel lock, stainless steel ball bearings in hinges and various other low cost bits 'n' bobs....

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17212.html?highlight=layered

Local to myself there have been a couple of attempts of stealing the rear spare wheel (not just Defenders) and this reminded me of a distant thread....

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic5703.h...eel+stolen

Any thief if adequately 'tooled up' will get what he's after and this method whilst not 100% secure will hold anyone up for a while. The drawback being it will take even yourself 10-15 minutes perhaps of removing the spare. Then again in many years of Land Rover ownership I've only ever had to use my spare once.

Thought I'd share....make of it what you will. I recently bought a swing away wheel carrier and it will have to be adapted for your own set up accordingly.

The intention was to 'pick up' the two vacant holes on my spare wheel and manufacture a plate that obscures one or more of the securing nuts onto the carrier. The rear half-moon plate can be secured/pinned behind the wheel and swingaway and would take considerable time to remove to gain access to the nut(s).


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I recently found an old mudflap in Poole port and cut the emblem from it and sourced some 3mm stainless steel.
Next I had the steel laser-cut for my purposes and sandwiched the emblem size plate with rubber so the plate would not damage mark my spare when finally bolted on.
I then measured and drilled the plates to fit two M12 100mm stainless steel bolts to. I used countersunk bolts as the steel was 3mm thick I could slightly countersink the holes to give more purchase.


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Bolts fitted and secured behind front plate with washers and nylocks. Heatshrink fitted to prevent damge to spare wheel when bolts pass through vacant holes.
Sealed bolt heads with Sikaflex onto which the badge/emblem will be stuck.
Still 'work in progress' need to allow the sealant to dry before going any further. Rear half-moon plate will secure behind the mounting fascia of the swingaway carrier and be secured with locknuts and split pins. NOT foolproof but better than nowt. Will post final pictures when complete.


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 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!


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Post #219532 16th Mar 2013 1:04pm
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GUM97



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Interesting mod, look forward to seeing the finished product Thumbs Up An engine to TDi for!
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K9F



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Finally got a little spare time to 'square this away'....

Revisited the heatshrinking......will measure up and cut excess away from the threads....

Emblem adhered to plate and extrusion glued and filled around the edge.....

Fitted covering the locking nut....Only disadvantage is that it will take me 15-20 minutes to remove the spare should I need it even with the correct tooling.....

Job jobbed, another level in the 'layered approach'..... Thumbs Up

 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!


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Green Machine



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Looks good Mal. I might be missing something here, but how do you get round the back of the spare to fix the security plate in place? Does your swing-away move independently of the rear door? I considered something similar to this a while back, but I don't have a swing-away carrier, just the standard rear door carrier. In the end I just bought a chuffing great ABUS motorbike chain. I realise that you might not be able to answer my question on an open forum as it might give the game away! My question really is if you can get round the back of the wheel to fix it in place, what stops Johnny robber from just undoing the fixings and taking the plate off? Is there a lock in there somewhere? 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green
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K9F



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^^^

I know exactly where you're coming from! If it was that easy the modification would be a waste of time! Thumbs Up

'PM' sent. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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Baggie Austin



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Nice work, looks great too
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238kirk



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That's a nice job, anything that adds time to get it off is a bonus, think ill have a go at something like that myself Thumbs Up
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Birdy



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I really don’t bother too much on the security side of things (wot gets nicked will sooner or later get replaced) but when I lived in Syria one of my drivers simply drilled through a spare wheel mounting bolt and put a padlock through the hole. Feasible nowadays?

Peter
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K9F



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Birdy wrote:
I really don’t bother too much on the security side of things (wot gets nicked will sooner or later get replaced) Peter


Nice ethos! Thumbs Up

Reminds me of "Everything in life is just on loan!" Personally I'd rather not give the toe-rags the satisfaction of fleecing me of something I treasure and have spent several years getting it how I want, all for the sake of a little thought and little outlay! It's a battle of wills, why make it easy?

Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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BigWheels



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Well if you will buy flashy alloys Whistle Thieves want the rim, not your rubber, usually. A cheap steel rim as spare would be less incentive, maybe. Neutral

But looks cool what you've done. Cool Thumbs Up Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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Borro



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Looking great Thumbs Up Thumbs Up "Porthos" Defender 90 td4 santorini black - Winter is Coming
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K9F



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BigWheels wrote:
Well if you will buy flashy alloys Whistle Thumbs Up


Laughing They're not alloys though! But I know what you mean! Laughing If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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BigRuss



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so what size spanner do I need for that? Russell
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K9F



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Another spare stolen recently.

http://www.defender2.net/forum/post267691.html#267691

I decided to 'revisit' my security plate. I also have a brass badge I didn't want to drill the bodywork for.

Laser plate cut from 3mm stainless steel and two M12 bolts welded in situ.....

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Front of plate....

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Back from powdercoaters & Badges rivetted and Sikaflexed on.....

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Little more 'fettling required and I'll remove the old and fit the new. Which should if my calculations are correct fit directly over the centre of my spare wheel.....hopefully. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!


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KarlMD



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Looks good Thumbs Up
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