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nitram17



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Sealing the Windscreen
Sorry if this is a blonde moment! but the LR water ingress booklet (thankd Dgardel ) gives the impression that you only have to seal the windscreen to frame side of the seal (red arrow )and not the windscreen to seal side (blue arrow)

What do folks do one here as there is not a lot of room to get the sealent into the windscreen side?




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Whats the best product to seal the windscreen?Will any general purpose window sealent do or is there a particular product that is better than others ?

Also after it has rained is it normal when you open the doors water comes Censored out of the door seal near the bottom front edge of the door (I have a 90)
Post #438513 17th Jul 2015 9:00am
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landroverdiver



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Hi

I am currently taking the opportunity to try and stem the water ingress on my 2004 110 SW. I have not yet tackled the windscreen (the fake hinges on the bulkhead were a major water leak source), I have used Sikaflex. Costs about 9 quid from Screwfix.

It is easy to apply, but very very messy, lots of rags needed, and a drop of white spirit to clean up.
Post #438523 17th Jul 2015 9:38am
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GREENI



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I worked in the windscreen trade for many years...

It was very, very rare that anything was sealed glass to rubber, (it was rare to seal anything at all!), though rubber to body sealing is best. The glass to rubber seal is usually very good and never needs sealing.
Post #438532 17th Jul 2015 10:06am
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nitram17



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landroverdiver wrote:
Hi

I am currently taking the opportunity to try and stem the water ingress on my 2004 110 SW. I have not yet tackled the windscreen (the fake hinges on the bulkhead were a major water leak source), I have used Sikaflex. Costs about 9 quid from Screwfix.

It is easy to apply, but very very messy, lots of rags needed, and a drop of white spirit to clean up.


what type/number of sikaflex did you use ?
Post #438534 17th Jul 2015 10:16am
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Gleaney



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
A major leak source on my Puma was the spongy foam that runs horizontally between the bulk head and the windscreen. So.....I got some Captain trollies creeping crack cure, waited for a dry day and applied the milky liquid onto the foam and let it soak in. I did this a couple of times over a couple of days. Leak gone! I have also applied it between the glass and the rubber on the windscreen for good measure. Hope this helps. Damn planet is short of Kryptonite !
Post #438545 17th Jul 2015 11:05am
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landroverdiver



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Sika Sikaflex EBT + All weather sealant. I used black and ran it over the existing seals (after cleaning and when they were dry)

It supposedly remains flexible so shouldnt crack

Wear disposable gloves and don't apply too much at a time
Post #438572 17th Jul 2015 1:18pm
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nitram17



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GREENI wrote:
I worked in the windscreen trade for many years...

It was very, very rare that anything was sealed glass to rubber, (it was rare to seal anything at all!), though rubber to body sealing is best. The glass to rubber seal is usually very good and never needs sealing.


what makes the defender windscreen surround so different from other cars as i have never had a windscreen go in any car i have owned....i havent checked is the surround ally or steel and are there huge undulations in the metal to let the water through..........Is it just that the windscreen in nearly vertical so less water is deflected off?
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ginjez



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Post #438650 17th Jul 2015 8:46pm
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Barney12



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Re: Sealing the Windscreen
nitram17 wrote:

Also after it has rained is it normal when you open the doors water comes Censored out of the door seal near the bottom front edge of the door (I have a 90)


My 2014 90 Stationwagon does this. The inside does seem to be staying dry though. Surely can't be good for rust prevention though if the car is sat for a long time with water trapped?
Post #438687 18th Jul 2015 6:22am
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nitram17



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Thanks barney i was hoping for a few more comments as if it happens to everyone then its obviously by design and if not its a seal malfunction.......and i agree about the rust !
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Barney12



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I would certainly like the views of others on this issue.
Post #438872 19th Jul 2015 10:02am
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Martin
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Yes opening the doors after rain causes a gush at the front Shocked  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Barney12



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Thus it must be a "water feature" Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry
Post #451452 2nd Sep 2015 3:11pm
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nitram17



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Martin wrote:
Yes opening the doors after rain causes a gush at the front Shocked


sorry but i have just seen this ........if the seals are doing the job properly i would of thought the water should have been kept out...........surely if you dont use your defender for a week all the water will be lying at the bottom rotting the metal?
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nitram17 wrote:
if the seals are doing the job properly i would of thought the water should have been kept out...........surely if you dont use your defender for a week all the water will be lying at the bottom rotting the metal?



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