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nitram17

Member Since: 08 Jun 2014
Location: newcastle
Posts: 2261

Sealing the Windscreen

Sorry if this is a blonde moment! but the LR water ingress booklet (thankd Dgardel ) gives the impression that you only have to seal the windscreen to frame side of the seal (red arrow )and not the windscreen to seal side (blue arrow)

What do folks do one here as there is not a lot of room to get the sealent into the windscreen side?

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Whats the best product to seal the windscreen?Will any general purpose window sealent do or is there a particular product that is better than others ?

Also after it has rained is it normal when you open the doors water comes

out of the door seal near the bottom front edge of the door (I have a 90)

17th Jul 2015 9:00am

landroverdiver

Member Since: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Renfrewshire
Posts: 193

Hi

I am currently taking the opportunity to try and stem the water ingress on my 2004 110 SW. I have not yet tackled the windscreen (the fake hinges on the bulkhead were a major water leak source), I have used Sikaflex. Costs about 9 quid from Screwfix.

It is easy to apply, but very very messy, lots of rags needed, and a drop of white spirit to clean up.

17th Jul 2015 9:38am

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10381

I worked in the windscreen trade for many years...

It was very, very rare that anything was sealed glass to rubber, (it was rare to seal anything at all!), though rubber to body sealing is best. The glass to rubber seal is usually very good and never needs sealing.

17th Jul 2015 10:06am

nitram17

Member Since: 08 Jun 2014
Location: newcastle
Posts: 2261

landroverdiver wrote:
Hi

I am currently taking the opportunity to try and stem the water ingress on my 2004 110 SW. I have not yet tackled the windscreen (the fake hinges on the bulkhead were a major water leak source), I have used Sikaflex. Costs about 9 quid from Screwfix.

It is easy to apply, but very very messy, lots of rags needed, and a drop of white spirit to clean up.

what type/number of sikaflex did you use ?

17th Jul 2015 10:16am

Gleaney

Member Since: 03 Dec 2012
Location: Earth!
Posts: 94

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

A major leak source on my Puma was the spongy foam that runs horizontally between the bulk head and the windscreen. So.....I got some Captain trollies creeping crack cure, waited for a dry day and applied the milky liquid onto the foam and let it soak in. I did this a couple of times over a couple of days. Leak gone! I have also applied it between the glass and the rubber on the windscreen for good measure. Hope this helps. Damn planet is short of Kryptonite !

17th Jul 2015 11:05am

landroverdiver

Member Since: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Renfrewshire
Posts: 193

Sika Sikaflex EBT + All weather sealant. I used black and ran it over the existing seals (after cleaning and when they were dry)

It supposedly remains flexible so shouldnt crack

Wear disposable gloves and don't apply too much at a time

17th Jul 2015 1:18pm

nitram17

Member Since: 08 Jun 2014
Location: newcastle
Posts: 2261

GREENI wrote:
I worked in the windscreen trade for many years...

It was very, very rare that anything was sealed glass to rubber, (it was rare to seal anything at all!), though rubber to body sealing is best. The glass to rubber seal is usually very good and never needs sealing.

what makes the defender windscreen surround so different from other cars as i have never had a windscreen go in any car i have owned....i havent checked is the surround ally or steel and are there huge undulations in the metal to let the water through..........Is it just that the windscreen in nearly vertical so less water is deflected off?

17th Jul 2015 3:48pm

ginjez

Member Since: 18 Sep 2011
Location: huddersfield
Posts: 1763

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 ST Santorini Black

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worked for me - £3 a tube

17th Jul 2015 8:46pm

Barney12

Member Since: 09 Jun 2015
Location: South West
Posts: 744

2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey

Re: Sealing the Windscreen

nitram17 wrote:

Also after it has rained is it normal when you open the doors water comes out of the door seal near the bottom front edge of the door (I have a 90)

My 2014 90 Stationwagon does this. The inside does seem to be staying dry though. Surely can't be good for rust prevention though if the car is sat for a long time with water trapped?

18th Jul 2015 6:22am

nitram17

Member Since: 08 Jun 2014
Location: newcastle
Posts: 2261

Thanks barney i was hoping for a few more comments as if it happens to everyone then its obviously by design and if not its a seal malfunction.......and i agree about the rust !

18th Jul 2015 9:15am

Barney12

Member Since: 09 Jun 2015
Location: South West
Posts: 744

I would certainly like the views of others on this issue.

19th Jul 2015 10:02am

Martin
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Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6605

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

Yes opening the doors after rain causes a gush at the front

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

2nd Sep 2015 3:09pm

Barney12

Member Since: 09 Jun 2015
Location: South West
Posts: 744

Thus it must be a "water feature"

2nd Sep 2015 3:11pm

nitram17

Member Since: 08 Jun 2014
Location: newcastle
Posts: 2261

Martin wrote:
Yes opening the doors after rain causes a gush at the front

sorry but i have just seen this ........if the seals are doing the job properly i would of thought the water should have been kept out...........surely if you dont use your defender for a week all the water will be lying at the bottom rotting the metal?

2nd Sep 2015 3:31pm

gilarion

Member Since: 05 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
Posts: 5110

2007 Defender 90 Other CSW Trident Green

nitram17 wrote:
if the seals are doing the job properly i would of thought the water should have been kept out...........surely if you dont use your defender for a week all the water will be lying at the bottom rotting the metal?

Defender seals doing a good job

That's why there is such a good lucrative aftermarket supply of footwell repair panels.

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2nd Sep 2015 3:39pm

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