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| Allan Member Since: 09 Sep 2009 Location: Perth Posts: 166   
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Thanks MK will try Allan |
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8th Jul 2010 2:34pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035  
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Mine was twice identified as normal unit i recorded it and sent it to the Service Manager who drove it and said its functions worse than the sound.
Trust me the clutch in them (or this one after 3 trips) engages where the other did, is far from heavy, does not give a noise and is a dream... Mike |
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8th Jul 2010 4:34pm |
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| Allan Member Since: 09 Sep 2009 Location: Perth Posts: 166
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Got it back this afternoon compleat with rattle, am going to get drunk over the weekend as I an reeeeeeely
 off. I have been told to moniter the noise, which I will do. I don't know if the clutch will crap itself with the centre springs so loose, but I hope it happens about 1000km's from the dealers so Land Rover have to tow it and supply me with transport, or write it off. The worst bed partner Land Rover ever had is that lump of Ford crap that powers it now........Junk. 
Allan |
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9th Jul 2010 4:19pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035
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the puma engine is a great engine, dont be put off Mike
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9th Jul 2010 4:41pm |
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| LROV90 Member Since: 22 Jul 2009 Location: geelong Posts: 10
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Sorry did I read this wrong???? What part is good - the plastic stubby holder on top?! |
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10th Jul 2010 6:27am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035
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Yes you did. The whole engine - far better than the TD5 anyway...but i would concede not as good as the TDV8 or my favourite the 5l Supercharged V8 Mike |
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10th Jul 2010 8:00am |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248  
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It's fixed
Still waiting to get the full details but apparently it is an adjustment to one of the rods on the slave or master cylinder that does not appear to be documented anywhere. When I know the full details this evening I will post them for interested parties. Bob |
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12th Jul 2010 3:13pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035
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Good Stuff Mike |
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12th Jul 2010 4:32pm |
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| DAZ110 Member Since: 06 Dec 2007 Location: East Sussex Posts: 2035 
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Great news then Bob
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12th Jul 2010 5:08pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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Good Bob, waiting more details Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition 
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12th Jul 2010 11:58pm |
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| Allan Member Since: 09 Sep 2009 Location: Perth Posts: 166
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Thats great Bob, hope all goes well now.
Allan |
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13th Jul 2010 1:10am |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2410  
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Probably already addressed, but does the Defender also share the clutch with the Transit? Puma 110" SW
............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later |
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13th Jul 2010 1:13am |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248
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OK the details.
The clue to the fix was in my other post on this ' can we succeed where LR have failed'. To quote myself 'On the Td5 there was a box under the coolant bottle, lid held on by six screws with a switch attached. If the cover of this was removed it revealed a bar with some half lock nuts. This was used to adjust the clutch pedal position and the grab point. Does this exist on the puma ' A similar set up does exist on the Puma and it part of its function is to adjust the rods connected to the pistons on, I guess, the master cylinder. This is set up at the factory and is supposed to be set for life hence the reason it does not appear in the workshop manual. Once the LR engineer had adjusted it everything worked correctly - I knew I should have told the garage about my suspicions last week but not seeing anything in the manual about it I did not bother. Clutch operation and gear change is now excellent, far better than the second clutch, and there is no crunching of gears from first to second and second to third
Yeovil LR have entered all the details of the work done on the LR warranty database so any dealer can access it. If you have this problem and the dealer can't find the info PM me and I will send you my registration number which will take the dealer directly to my vehicle's details. Bob |
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13th Jul 2010 7:35am |
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| Scallops Member Since: 15 Aug 2007 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 89
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No disrespect intended - but maybe if some of you fellas ever get the chance to drive a Puma across a few arid bulldust filled deserts, across savannahs and tracks with foot high corrugations - only to find the vehicle self disintegrating - then use it in some extreme 4 wheel driving situations, and have not only a clutch, but a gearbox, transfer case, axles.... the list goes on - fail - be replaced, albeit under warranty - you'll realise that folks like Allan and LROV90 are right.
This Defender is not as good as previous models. Because good means more than a "refined driving experience". It means a vehicle that when pushed hard, will display some reliability. I have used this truck in such an environment, and can offer you this: A Puma might suffice where the occasional hedgehog is all you'll come across, on some scenic hedge and stone walled greenlane. But in our world - they fail miserably. I have a 1956 Series 1 - it's a vehicle I trust more than my 07 Puma! Dan (aka Scallops from AULRO) |
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13th Jul 2010 9:36am |
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