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Caterham



Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
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Post #30582 23rd Apr 2010 11:38am
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Setok



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Finland 
Any idea how this might affect cars in the rest of the EU? In Finland vans (or actually a specially modified 'Safari Van' for the Finnish market, with higher roof) are sold with (much) lower car tax for their commercial status. The difference is 20,000 euros, so quite significant!
Post #30593 23rd Apr 2010 1:37pm
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TallPaul



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Unless they fit the monster roof the whole range, I can't see it making a difference! Disco 3 gone but the memory of the bills remain...
XS 110 Utility maybe one day..... (did they fix the quality yet?)
Post #30594 23rd Apr 2010 1:51pm
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Setok



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Finland 
The extra roof is to (just) give it enough internal space to be legally a van. However I would've thought EU legislation would be consolidating all of that into single regulation throughout the region.
Post #30610 23rd Apr 2010 5:47pm
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maggieforrest



Member Since: 22 Apr 2010
Location: Lancashire
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2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Santorini Black
My crew cab is already classified as commercial, my tax this year was £190.

Much better than the £400 plus if could have been.
Post #30623 23rd Apr 2010 9:26pm
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fekete



Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
LOL mines 185 commercial / 400 there taking the Censored Whistle NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #30624 23rd Apr 2010 10:13pm
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chris h



Member Since: 09 Nov 2009
Location: West Devon
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
I put my LHD 110 SVX through IVA (replaced SVA last year, I think). I couldn't prove actual date of manufacture, so DVLA put in down as Jan 1st 2008 but classified it as light goods vehicle with low road tax.
I had to remove factory rear step bumper to get it through - does not pass current regs.
Very helpful and friendly VOSA in Exeter, by the way.
Post #30711 25th Apr 2010 10:36pm
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mse



Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey
Caterham wrote:
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Unlucky - i wouldnt buy a car from them (well any in the west midlands, if they gave me 50% off)

Quote:
I had to remove factory rear step bumper to get it through - does not pass current regs.


Odd the genuine LR one is type approved and spec'd for the UK market correctly so there is no reason this shouldnt have passed - unless you sticker has fallen off or been covered, or is an old one which isnt[/url] Mike
Post #30712 25th Apr 2010 10:50pm
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AndrewS



Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
I am still trying to get all this reclassification info. Waiting to see if I can post on here. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #30719 26th Apr 2010 7:45am
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jav-uk



Member Since: 29 Mar 2010
Location: Shropshire
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England 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Alpine White
Recently changed my MY07 110 CSW £400/yr RFL for a MY10 110 Utility £185/yr RFL.
Two Reasons for changing; Tax classification and problems that are well documented on this site for early Puma's. iE. Engine and Transmission.
If the LR are making all Defenders N1 class for MY11 I suspect this could be end of the road for the 90/110 Station Wagons. Big Cry
Maybe LR have a new 7 seater on the way to replace the 110 CSW. Question Shocked Thumbs Up Paul

Pondering a New 90 Commercial
2020 Evoque
* 2014 110 SW JE Stage 2.
*2010 110 Utility. JE Stage 2.
*2007 110 SW
*2003 90 JE Stage 2.
*2000 90 SW

If its not leaking it ain't full.
Post #30724 26th Apr 2010 8:48am
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AndrewS



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
Who wants the info Question I will email it to you Shocked PM me your email address. Do I really want to do this Shocked

This info should be available at your dealers Thumbs Up

Oh can those that are seriously interested request this please Thumbs Up

Reading the info it looks like I have the last 130 model that has a 3,500kg GVM, the 11MY is now 3,380kg 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #30732 26th Apr 2010 11:09am
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TallPaul



Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
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United Kingdom 
Hope you got a good strong email server Andrew! Laughing

I did read somewhere this morning, can't remember where, that the biggest change is that the badge will now be silver not gold! I can hear the purists screaming from here to the dealer!

Jav - commercial is £200 a year by the way, £185 was last year/budget... Disco 3 gone but the memory of the bills remain...
XS 110 Utility maybe one day..... (did they fix the quality yet?)
Post #30735 26th Apr 2010 12:02pm
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chris h



Member Since: 09 Nov 2009
Location: West Devon
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Quote:
I had to remove factory rear step bumper to get it through - does not pass current regs.


Odd the genuine LR one is type approved and spec'd for the UK market correctly so there is no reason this shouldnt have passed - unless you sticker has fallen off or been covered, or is an old one which isnt[/url][/quote]

As I understand it, the new IVA is quite strict. Their comment was that the bumper is a protruding add-on and anything protruding has to have a certain curvature. They have a guide and it was clear the bumper does not meet that criteria. I said the bumper does not even come out past the spare wheel, so how could it be a protruding. I guess it depends who is interpreting the rules.
(My Mantec spare wheel carrier had to come off too, needless to say, it and the bumper went back on the next day). No extra charge to bring the vehicle back in for a re-test.
Post #30932 28th Apr 2010 6:39am
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
new utility 110s comes with the rear step removed and i notice they now charge for the utility sides instead of the windows! Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #31000 29th Apr 2010 5:36am
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TallPaul



Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
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United Kingdom 
Yes, £0 option is now £90 option for some metal panels instead of 4 more expensive and complex to install glass windows - land rover logic?!

You still get the carpet and trim in the back of an XS utility though I believe? Disco 3 gone but the memory of the bills remain...
XS 110 Utility maybe one day..... (did they fix the quality yet?)
Post #31014 29th Apr 2010 8:37am
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