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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4785   
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Evening all. I noticed today that under the Rev counter on my 2.2 there is a low range symbol the same as most of the landrover range (should illuminate green I believe) so I slipped it into low range but it didn't light up. Probably shouldn't anyway but would be cool if it did/should but doesn't is that how it is? I'm guessing so
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12th Mar 2015 10:33pm |
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| fatman Member Since: 14 Jan 2014 Location: Athens-Greece Posts: 126  
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Although its function is mentioned in the 2.4 puma owners manual,it's not working..
The hi-low switch is on the transfer case,the black wire(mentioned in the workshop manual) is present on the instrument cluster plug,out of curiocity i took out the cluster and part-dismandled it and found out that there is a led missing on that spot,i hoped it would be an old-style bulb missing but soldering isn't my best talent.. |
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13th Mar 2015 6:19am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8033  
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the very early Pumas had the function enabled, we had quite a few launch vehicles that illuminated the low indicator when low was selected
i guess they dropped it reckoning that the avg defender drive could work out it was in low when at 45mph and 4000rpm. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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13th Mar 2015 7:12am |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4785
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So if. The wiring is present to the ipac then soldering in a green 5050 led might make it functional? 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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13th Mar 2015 7:37am |
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| fatman Member Since: 14 Jan 2014 Location: Athens-Greece Posts: 126
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But you must first remove the cluster transparent cover then the instruments' needles,the back facia with the graphics(rpm-mph etc) split the rest of the cluster case and then just solder a led,easyyyy
I thing Land Rover "forgot" this led on purpose,then they had to make warranty recalls for the transfer case hi-lo switch-top quallity,it's better not to have a low range indicator at all than to have it work intermintently |
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13th Mar 2015 8:42am |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 
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There is no hi lo switch on the gearbox as far as I know . So not a lot of point mucking around with the dash part
Also why bother worrying about it when you can see lever position ( unlike diff lock ) and it's easy to tell as soon as you pull away |
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13th Mar 2015 8:47am |
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| fatman Member Since: 14 Jan 2014 Location: Athens-Greece Posts: 126
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On my transfer case there are 2 switches,the usual one for difflock(over the front output flange) and higher up on the transfer case(where the hi-lo cable-rod is connected),the hi-lo switch
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13th Mar 2015 9:18am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20382
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Don't for goodness sake mess with it if there is nothing wrong with it in the first place.
If you do you'll propbbaly then end up with a problem for your efforts. |
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13th Mar 2015 10:02am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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Hope Caterham doesn't see this thread.
 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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13th Mar 2015 10:08am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17387 
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There is a high/low switch on the transfer box, which is used to tell the ECM which throttle response map to use.
I think that LR assumes that you can tell if you're in low or high without an idiot light! An intriguing question I have posed before though is given that there is no transducer on the main gearbox to tell the ECM which gear you have selected, how does the ECM know to engage idle jack in the low range gears to which it applies (only 1st, 2nd, reverse IIRC)? Clever, eh! |
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13th Mar 2015 10:47am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8033
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idle jack is 1st low. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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13th Mar 2015 10:49am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17387
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Idle jack is not only 1st low.
Certainly 1st low, also reverse low, and I think 2nd low. |
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13th Mar 2015 1:22pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8033
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confirmed it, its 1st and rev Low. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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13th Mar 2015 3:05pm |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1317 
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Hi Blackwolf,
I think the idle jack is initiated through a combination of the low range gearbox sensor and either ABS speed or speedo sensors. If you pop the vehicle into low range on a slope and leave the main box in neutral then roll forward slowly the revs rise. Roll too quickly and the revs drop back to normal idle speed. Try the same thing in high range and no increase in revs  |
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14th Mar 2015 11:25am |
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