1ten.neuss wrote:

@BruceT

Not sure if you have seen the upgrade possibility from Bell Auto Services:



http://bellautoservices.co.uk/products/vnt...rid-turbo/

Regards,
Bernd

Just to keep things on an even keel Bernd

Alive also does the Turbo upgrade



http://www.alivetuning.com/alive-boutique/...uct_id=119

A soon to be mod on my Alive tuned Puma. :thumbsup:

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1ten.neuss wrote:

@BruceT

Not sure if you have seen the upgrade possibility from Bell Auto Services:



http://bellautoservices.co.uk/products/vnt...rid-turbo/

Regards,
Bernd

1ten.neuss.......yes ive seen all the goodies available but baby steps first!!
Im also still under warranty so dont want to do too much yet.

Still waiting for the Atric ......... hopefully I will hear something at least this week.

big steve wrote:

Numbers on the sides are just casting numbers

Ehem - I was joking (badly, as usual) - I imagine they achieve similar results

On another note, I would like to fit one and run it on standard tune as well as with a remap but I guess that won't be possible... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...

ZeDefender wrote:

big steve wrote:

Numbers on the sides are just casting numbers

Ehem - I was joking (badly, as usual) - I imagine they achieve similar results

On another note, I would like to fit one and run it on standard tune as well as with a remap but I guess that won't be possible...

Lorryman100 wrote:

It doesn't matter what is stamped on the compressor housing, with hybrids it all depends on what has been changed internally, some examples of what changes can happen to a bog standard OEM turbo below. Depends on how much you want to spend and what power gains are achievable with a remapped engine, after all there is no point in fitting a bigger turbo without changing other aspects as the turbo lag would be huge.

Porting & Polishing Turbine Housing
Ported Shroud Conversion
Fitting a Larger Compressor Wheel
Fitting a Larger Turbine Wheel
CNC Re-Profililng of Compressor Cover
Modifying the Compressor Backplate
Fitting of 360 Degree Thrust Bearing, Boost pressures of over 1 Bar, 14.7 psi.
Staggered Gap Piston Ring
Ball Bearing Conversion with Bronze Ball Bearing Carriers
Turbine Wheel Cutback
CNC Re-Profiled Turbine Housing
Fitting an Uprated Actuator
Ceramic Coating

I agree, all of the above can and should be done but wouldn't it be good if all of the above was done by a company that was LR approved and had all the LR specs as opposed to a company that is making a copy of something

I think you will find that Turbo Technics are the only approved company doing this and they are only available through one tuning specialist, hi Pete - all other turbos are copies with the re-manufactoring company guessing at specs and whilst they are doing a very good job, I know where my money would go  Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free

"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.

Glynparry25 wrote:

Japseroony wrote:

I am not knocking anyone else or trying to say one is better than the other, but this is where it all started and not only for the Puma 2.4

With that attitude, FWD automotive company was the first company to manufacture a 4x4 off-road vehicle- so does that mean Land Rovers are inferior as they weren't the first?

It is a market out there- just because someone makes the first it doesn't mean they are the best Shop around.

Glyn

There is always someone that wants to start a war of words on here without knowing the full facts but heyho each to their own  Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free

"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.

Glynparry25 wrote:

In general no...... Land Rover have gone for a maximum power of 122bhp....... so they probably de-tunned the engine to get this figure. Also remember the more power you have the less throttle/ effort you need so technically you are prolonging the life of your engine.

Glyn

OK, hands up I do not understand remaps etc. Also tend to ignore such threads as they tend to get technical and above my head etc

However I am surprised a remap will prolong the life of an engine!

Is that simply due to less rpm are used? Hence less wear on cylinders and piston ring?? Or is it something else?

However would less wear be offset by higher engine temperatures due to higher fuel injection pressure/fuel being burnt more efficient?


Keep any information as simple as possible please so I can understand it


Brendan

Japseroony wrote:

ZeDefender wrote:

big steve wrote:

Numbers on the sides are just casting numbers

Ehem - I was joking (badly, as usual) - I imagine they achieve similar results

On another note, I would like to fit one and run it on standard tune as well as with a remap but I guess that won't be possible...

Why not?

leeds wrote:

Glynparry25 wrote:

In general no...... Land Rover have gone for a maximum power of 122bhp....... so they probably de-tunned the engine to get this figure. Also remember the more power you have the less throttle/ effort you need so technically you are prolonging the life of your engine.

Glyn

OK, hands up I do not understand remaps etc. Also tend to ignore such threads as they tend to get technical and above my head etc

However I am surprised a remap will prolong the life of an engine!

Is that simply due to less rpm are used? Hence less wear on cylinders and piston ring?? Or is it something else?

However would less wear be offset by higher engine temperatures due to higher fuel injection pressure/fuel being burnt more efficient?


Keep any information as simple as possible please so I can understand it


Brendan

Unlike the ebay type tunes you can buy where they often quote massive power gains, both Gary and Pete tune the vehicle within tolerences (unless asked to tune differently) so the engine will not run hotter or have more wear on its components/internals etc but equally it wont last longer so you won't prolong the life of your engine but you won't wear it out sooner  Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free

"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.

ZeDefender wrote:

Japseroony wrote:

ZeDefender wrote:

big steve wrote:

Numbers on the sides are just casting numbers

Ehem - I was joking (badly, as usual) - I imagine they achieve similar results

On another note, I would like to fit one and run it on standard tune as well as with a remap but I guess that won't be possible...

Why not?

Pete suggested a remap would have to be configured for a new turbo but maybe that's just to optimise.

Ahh, now I understand. If you have a hybrid turbo you can run it on a std map but in order to optimise the unit a re-map would be better. If you have a BAS box then you could run either by switching from one to the other.

I would go back to Pete and ask directly and I am sure he will be able to offer you both  Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free

"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.