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Glynparry25

Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green

blackwolf wrote:

Glyn, many thanks for this explanation, now I understand!

Just as a matter of interest, would you mind telling me (pm if you prefer) how much OEC charged to fit your cage?

OEC quoted £650-800 for fitting........... They had never fitted a full external DC one before and at the end they realised that it took a little (OK, a lot) longer than planned, but stayed true to their word and only charged £800 (most places quoted £1500 minimum). I have a feeling that they would ask a bit more for the same cage next time.

Their service was awesome- very accommodating and when they removed a few things out from behind the rear seats (I forgot to check/ remove) they accidentally forgot to replace one of the spanners (Long reach 10mm). Before I even noticed it was gone it appeared through my letterbox with a nice letter- now that is an honest service- I think most places would have considered it a new tool to their collection!!

Glyn

18th Jun 2012 2:12pm

Go Beyond

Member Since: 30 Jan 2012
Location: Headcorn, Kent
Posts: 6678

Foleys quoted £900 + VAT to fit an SD external cage to a Puma 110 ....

18th Jun 2012 2:18pm

Glynparry25

Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

Merlin wrote:
Go Whitbread, it's welded!

Merlin

Nice looking cage there Merlin, does it have an internal roll bar too?, and yes Whitbread are awesome (they are just down the road from home)..... I would love to own their 'Thug' comp vehicle.

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Glyn

18th Jun 2012 2:18pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17386

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

So does anyone know the answer to my other question - does a standard SD (or P&P) station wagon cage fit a DC with an IW canopy?

I know I could fit the DC type cage, but since I always have the canopy fitted and need something to hold up the Patriot rack, the SW type would suit me better.

18th Jun 2012 2:21pm

Go Beyond

Member Since: 30 Jan 2012
Location: Headcorn, Kent
Posts: 6678

If your IW canopy is the same width as the gutter on a standard SW then it must fit - mustn't it ?

18th Jun 2012 2:27pm

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10382

Awww man that Thug is ugly as sin.... Never liked it

18th Jun 2012 2:29pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8032

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

Glynparry25 wrote:

I would love to own their 'Thug' comp vehicle.

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Glyn

Honestly? i know the guy was looking to sell it on as hes not used it much lately i can pass details on.

on the subject of cages - North Off Raod get my vote for functionality and performance, fitting, adaptability, good value for material used, tightness of fit. in that order. all elements are exceptional and better than my P&P cage i my opinion. Cheers

James
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18th Jun 2012 8:25pm

Glynparry25

Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

jst wrote:

Honestly? i know the guy was looking to sell it on as hes not used it much lately i can pass details on.

on the subject of cages - North Off Raod get my vote for functionality and performance, fitting, adaptability, good value for material used, tightness of fit. in that order. all elements are exceptional and better than my P&P cage i my opinion.

I forgot about North Offroad- they do some really nice looking stuff.......

I would love the Thug..... yes it is pig ugly (maybe that is why they named it that' but what a capable motor which you can use and abuse and it will still keep on motoring.

I wouldn't be able to justify the spend on it at the moment.......... plus like the idea of making something myself which I will know inside out.

Glyn

18th Jun 2012 8:55pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17386

Go Beyond wrote:
If your IW canopy is the same width as the gutter on a standard SW then it must fit - mustn't it ?

Not quite that simple I'm afraid, the IW canopy is also 1.3/8" (or 35mm for you metric types) taller that the roof over its ribs, but the same level as the SW roof between the ribs. I don't think the shoulder width is an issue, but there may be a problem if the C or D hoops align with the canopy ribs.

Some careful measuring is called for, I think. If need be I reckon the ribs could be 'adjusted' and I am pretty sure it could be made to fit.

19th Jun 2012 9:24am

BigWheels

Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1405

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

Scary fitting costs, on top of cage prices

. Devon 4x4 is the nearest to me, I guess. How much an hour do they charge? I need to tell my bank manager!

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24th Jun 2012 5:51pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17386

BigWheels wrote:
Scary fitting costs, on top of cage prices . Devon 4x4 is the nearest to me, I guess. How much an hour do they charge? I need to tell my bank manager!

I guess it's like buying a good fire extinguisher; money you regret spending until the day you need it, when it becomes a bargain.

25th Jun 2012 9:29am

T1G UP

Member Since: 08 Dec 2009
Location: Bath
Posts: 3101

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Orkney Grey

Glynparry25 wrote:
jst wrote:

Honestly? i know the guy was looking to sell it on as hes not used it much lately i can pass details on.

on the subject of cages - North Off Raod get my vote for functionality and performance, fitting, adaptability, good value for material used, tightness of fit. in that order. all elements are exceptional and better than my P&P cage i my opinion.

I forgot about North Offroad- they do some really nice looking stuff.......

I would love the Thug..... yes it is pig ugly (maybe that is why they named it that' but what a capable motor which you can use and abuse and it will still keep on motoring.

I wouldn't be able to justify the spend on it at the moment.......... plus like the idea of making something myself which I will know inside out.

Glyn

good job to as it's sat in my workshop with the front cut out of it!

i'll get some pics but the owner and I will be out in it on the 7/8th of july at the Scott Williams Memorial Challenge.

25th Jun 2012 9:32am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17386

Could someone with a full SD expedition cage in a Puma 110 SW or DC (Glyn, perhaps) be kind enough to post (or PM) me a photo or two showing how the internal hoop fits in the vicinity of the front row seat backs.

I am trying to get my head around the extent to which the hoop either restricts the seat movement or intrudes into the 2nd row door aperture.

I'd be very grateful for any pics!

Thanks.

2nd Aug 2012 12:55pm

Glynparry25

Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

blackwolf wrote:
Could someone with a full SD expedition cage in a Puma 110 SW or DC (Glyn, perhaps) be kind enough to post (or PM) me a photo or two showing how the internal hoop fits in the vicinity of the front row seat backs.

I am trying to get my head around the extent to which the hoop either restricts the seat movement or intrudes into the 2nd row door aperture.

I'd be very grateful for any pics!

Thanks.

Had a few mins spare so here goes:

I am 6' and have broad shoulders. The top of the hoop never gets anywhere near my head. When sat in the seat as per the pictures (all the way back without mud rails etc. I have to push my shoulders back to touch the bar- Normally I sit in the seat and my arm/ shoulder touches the B-pillar.

As for Passenger area...... it doesn't touch it at all.

Here are some pics- let me know if you want any from any other angles.

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Glyn

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2nd Aug 2012 2:31pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17386

Many thanks, that is exactly what I was after! I will have another look at mine, what was puzzling is that there isn't even enough room for me to get my fingers between the seat back and the "B" post. I presume that you haven't moved your seats inboard at any stage?

Thanks.

2nd Aug 2012 3:39pm

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