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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Región Metropolitana Posts: 2110   
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Yorkshireland
Is the first type one, the same that I have (change one time before the 1st bulletin). Cheers! Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"  Click image to enlarge |
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10th May 2009 4:38pm |
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| YORKSHIRELAD Member Since: 17 Mar 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 159 
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Thanks Eduardo my friend!. I thought as much as it's only just done 3000 miles.Now I know where it is at least I can check it for oil leaks. I wonder how much Land Rover would charge for the latest one just as a part, not fitted?. Thanks, Richard 1963 Series 2A truck cab 2008 110 SW |
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10th May 2009 4:53pm |
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| sasha2001 Member Since: 02 Jan 2009 Location: New Zealand+ russia Posts: 206  
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Here there were no Landrover parts so the specialtly shop used a Ford one and Landrover accepted it |
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10th May 2009 7:19pm |
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| YORKSHIRELAD Member Since: 17 Mar 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 159
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[/quote]Here there were no Landrover parts so the specialtly shop used a Ford one and Landrover accepted it[/quote]
Hi Sasha2001. Is this the case for all of the attempts to get it right then?. In the case of the latest bulletin with the new gaseket as Eduardo kindly told us about in the first post, could we buy one from Ford?. I would rarther buy one and have it fitted than wait for the inevitable to happen. Richard 1963 Series 2A truck cab 2008 110 SW |
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10th May 2009 9:24pm |
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| NoDo$h Member Since: 18 Aug 2007 Location: Buried in deer guts in Dorset Posts: 972
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Must be doing something wrong - our 07 is still on the original pump.
Place your bets folks, place your bets. Failure by the end of the month is now guaranteed......
54 Freelander modded for mud 2008 D3 SE 2010 90 XS SW 1978 88 Series 3 undergoing surgery with a new owner 2007 90 County Truck Cab - gone 2006 D3 SE - gone 2004 Freelander Sport - gay 1999 Disco V8 ES rotted to bits |
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9th Jun 2009 9:31am |
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| RgrBox Member Since: 04 Jun 2009 Location: St-Cergue, Switzerland Posts: 111  
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Mine looks OK.. but the gasket at the front of my engine next to this pump shows some oil around it.. Should I have this looked at? 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw
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9th Jun 2009 11:00am |
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| Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266  
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Yes,better safe than sorry. 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up. |
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9th Jun 2009 12:20pm |
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| RgrBox Member Since: 04 Jun 2009 Location: St-Cergue, Switzerland Posts: 111
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Thanks.. I guess I'll have to bring it by the dealer...
RB 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw Landrovers of Switzerland Club member |
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9th Jun 2009 1:46pm |
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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Región Metropolitana Posts: 2110
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Regarding this question: Last bulletin regarding the vacuum pump has beem issued in May 22 2009, were they update the change procedure of the pump SSM41258 Models: LD - Defender Title: Defender 07 My on Vacuum Pump replacement procedure change Last Modified: 22-MAY-2009 08:55 Category: Chassis Symptom 301000 Service Brake System Content Issue: Changes to service process Defender 2007my Methods engineers at Land Rover have recently studied the service process for renewal of the brake vacuum pump for Defender (LD) 2007MY onwards models (2.4 Puma). In the new procedure the coolant fan is no longer removed and the battery is not disconnected. Should it become necessary to renew the brake vacuum pump on Defender (LD) 2007MY onwards models (2.4 Puma), refer to the updated procedure on GTR section 206-07: Power Brake Actuation. Old Repair Time: 70.50.19 – Vacuum pump – brake booster – renew – 0.70hrs New Repair Time: 70.50.19 – Vacuum pump – brake booster – renew – 0.40hrs Last issue regarding the pump itself has been issued on April 21, 2009 Technical Service Bulletin No.LTB00177v3 - 21 April 2009 Reissue: Please replace the previous edition of this bulletin. This bulletin supersedes TSB LTB00177v2/2008 dated 27 October, which should either be destroyed or clearly marked to show it is no longer valid (e.g. with a line across the page). Subject/Concern: Brake Vacuum Pump Seal Oil Leak Models: Defender (LD) 2.4L Diesel 2.4L Diesel VIN-range: 7A732615-9A779263 Markets: All Section: 206-07 Summary: Oil leaking from the brake vacuum pump front oil seal. This version has been issued for a change in the Causal Part and End VIN. Cause: Dirt ingress into the pump pulley seal resulting in damage to the lip and subsequent oil leakage (the new brake vacuum pump has a secondary dirt lip seal). Suggested Customer Concern Code - R31. Action: Should a customer express concern, install a new brake vacuum pump (refer to Global Technical Reference GTR Workshop Manual, section 206-07). Parts Required: Description Part Number Quantity Brake vacuum pump LR014973 1 Gasket LR004381 1 Labour Time: Operation Description Operation No. Time Install a new brake vacuum pump 70.50.19 0.7 hours Repair/Claim Coding: Causal Part: LR006782 ACES Condition Code: 42 Defect Code: Cheers Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo" Click image to enlarge |
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9th Jun 2009 3:05pm |
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| bustduster Member Since: 13 Apr 2009 Location: UK Posts: 14 |
Cheers Eduardo, that clears up the confusion. Looks like a procedural matter rather than a new version. I was a bit concerned as my April 08 110XS went in yesterday for the clutch to be relaced with the updated version and they said they would replace the vacuum pump as I would rather have it sorted before it was likely to fail.
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9th Jun 2009 3:39pm |
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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Región Metropolitana Posts: 2110
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Your welcome, in fact the last one is a procedure change
I have in conversations with our dealer for at least 1 year to change the old model pump (still not leaking) without success. 
Cheers Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo" Click image to enlarge |
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9th Jun 2009 3:43pm |
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| bustduster Member Since: 13 Apr 2009 Location: UK Posts: 14 |
The Technical Service Bulletin says it all! "Should a customer express concern, install a new brake vacuum pump". I expressed my concern to the dealer that many pumps had already failed and I would not be too happy having mine fail on a trip as the mileage builds up, especially as it is a known issue and they are now on their second upgrade. Perhaps you could try again and hope that your dealer is a little more cooperative!
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9th Jun 2009 7:12pm |
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| alantd Member Since: 14 Dec 2008 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 1513 
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Just had a bunch of stuff done on mine including the vacuum pump (a load of oil sprayed all over the underside of the RHS of the bonnet gave it away). The quantity of oil is not that high so I doubt it would cause problems on most trips. Still worth either getting it looked at or carrying a spare if you're out for an extended period. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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10th Jun 2009 8:50pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2420 
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add a few oil drops behind the pulley and drive through a dusty road. Puma 110" SW
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10th Jun 2009 9:03pm |
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