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Gamekeeper



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Seat rails - fitting
Just ordered some of those seat rails. Does the Dedender have captive nuts or do I need to line up another pair of hands to help me bolt them on? 16 Land Rovers so far....currently a 110. Oh and a Ducati, a Montesa, a Kawasaki and an understanding wife!
Post #130608 11th Mar 2012 8:08pm
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bolampau



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Re: Seat rails - fitting
Gamekeeper wrote:
Just ordered some of those seat rails. Does the Dedender have captive nuts or do I need to line up another pair of hands to help me bolt them on?


Nah, pretty straight forward to fit, you shouldn't need any help/assistance.
Post #130609 11th Mar 2012 8:11pm
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Landie Boy



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Hi,

Really basic to do, can supply a photo of finished result if needed...

Jack
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bm52



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yep, easy one but when i fitted my mud rails the rear bolts were'nt long enough and i had to buy some longer ones. BM52
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Gamekeeper



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Rails came today. 10mins to fit. Brilliant mod. I'm 6ft 2. 16 Land Rovers so far....currently a 110. Oh and a Ducati, a Montesa, a Kawasaki and an understanding wife!
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Gamekeeper



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Gamekeeper wrote:
Rails came today. 10mins to fit. Brilliant mod. I'm 6ft 2.


Now I need a slim door handle to stop my knee rubbing - any suggestions other than make my own? 16 Land Rovers so far....currently a 110. Oh and a Ducati, a Montesa, a Kawasaki and an understanding wife!
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bolampau



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I'm 6ft 5 and without rails I'd really struggle to drive, so definitely the best mod I've fitted by far!
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bolampau



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Gamekeeper wrote:
Gamekeeper wrote:
Rails came today. 10mins to fit. Brilliant mod. I'm 6ft 2.


Now I need a slim door handle to stop my knee rubbing - any suggestions other than make my own?


Here you go....

http://www.mudstuff.co.uk/Defender%20Flexi...ndle.shtml

they are excellent!

Cheers,
Paul
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Gamekeeper



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bolampau wrote:
Gamekeeper wrote:
Gamekeeper wrote:
Rails came today. 10mins to fit. Brilliant mod. I'm 6ft 2.


Now I need a slim door handle to stop my knee rubbing - any suggestions other than make my own?


Here you go....

http://www.mudstuff.co.uk/Defender%20Flexi...ndle.shtml

they are excellent!

Cheers,
Paul


Ordered - Cheers! 16 Land Rovers so far....currently a 110. Oh and a Ducati, a Montesa, a Kawasaki and an understanding wife!
Post #131105 13th Mar 2012 8:28pm
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Paul_1978



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13mm socket and thats it!
Real easy job to do, i fitted both XS seats into my 90 last weekend, probabally the easiest job so far!
Post #131109 13th Mar 2012 8:32pm
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JWL



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I have made some rails for mine and last week I modified them by welding some more fixing points on them to move the seat over by 1 1/2" to take the driving position off the door pillar. I've driven about 300 odd miles now, both a long trip and a few shorter trips, seems to work just could do with shifting the steering wheel over a bit Whistle
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bolampau



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JWL wrote:
I have made some rails for mine and last week I modified them by welding some more fixing points on them to move the seat over by 1 1/2" to take the driving position off the door pillar. I've driven about 300 odd miles now, both a long trip and a few shorter trips, seems to work just could do with shifting the steering wheel over a bit Whistle


Hi JWL,
have you got photos of the mod?

Cheers,
Paul
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JWL



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Sad as I am I do Whistle In this day and age of cameras on phones I've begun to take pictures of everyhing when I dismantle and modify mainly to jog my memory on what I did and to refer to when I put it back together, bit easier than those notes scribbled on the back of a fag packet that you then go and throw away Rolling Eyes

First how much the original rails lift the seat;

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Just using a simple bit of box section;

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The hole at the top/front is to allow the original bolt and socket through, the next one down is the original bolt hole which moved the seat rails back and then the tab welded on the side allows the seat to be fixed away from the door;

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Just to show how far back the seat has moved, the sideways movement is about 45mm;

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This is just to show the cutout required towards the reat to allow the box to clear the seam on top of the seat box, just be aware that on 110's, well my station wagon the door pillar has a angled strengthening brace that fouls the box section which can take a tap from a hammer or take some more out of the box section to allow clearance. I did put the original washer/spacers under the box when I put the rails in as it allowed better clearance over the sound matting;

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Seat refitted;

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Close up of front;

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Close up of back showing that curved stengthening brace;

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Hope that helps if anyone else wants to give it a try, really easy thing to do as long as you can stick bits of metal together and drill holes in the stuff.

Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Mr. Green
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bolampau



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Thanks JWL,
I'm gonna consider it for my 110.

I'm no good at welding but could get it done locally though.
Cheers,
Paul
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JWL



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Didn't say I was good at welding Laughing I just can and grinders/paint are just great Thumbs Up
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