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abomb1969



Member Since: 23 Jul 2011
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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Santorini Black
Towing drop plate
I have managed to buy a replacement Galaxy after my turbo blew and the sudden loss of oil meant my engine suffered a lot of wear in a short amount of time.

I am going to pick it up with a hired trailer behind the 110 as its not roadworth atm, but as my 110 tow hitch is a bit high I thought I might put this drop plate on the tow hitch. Is this advisable, I have used it before but only for a camping trailer not a 1.5t car plus 4 wheel trailer!

Cheers
Craig


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Laurie



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As long as the plate's 16mm+ thick, it should be OK.
The 'pull' is in line with the top bolts.
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abomb1969



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Thanks Laurie its 11mm thick.

Interesting info

Important Information
It is illegal to alter the height of the towball on passenger carrying vehicles after 1998 ('S' reg). This plate should under no circumstances be used to raise the towball height. (if in doubt please contact us for advice)
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Laurie



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Using a plate to raise the height would definitely be dangerous. You only have to look at the strain angles.
At 11mm, I wouldn't trust it to tow anything heavy.
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abomb1969



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Ok good advice I will pick up a new one.

Cheers
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WarPig



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When towing with my 110 300tdi, my adjustable towbar is also too high. Ive just ordered one of these drop plates from Towsure...

http://www.towsure.com/product/6_Hole_Drop_Plate_3_or_5_Inch_Drop

I havent received it yet and the website doesnt specify its thickness, but Ill let you know how I go on.
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XS Pete



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I've got one of those Towsure ones on mine. It's like the one in the pic above, but a bit longer and with six holes in so that you can drop the ball either 3" or 5". I'd estimate it's probably only 10~12mm thick plate, and it came in a plain galvanised finish, which I sprayed black. I've probably towed nothing heavier than about 1~1.5t since I've had it one but had no problems so far.

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WarPig



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Thanks Pete, its good to know you are happy with that drop plate. Ive just bought a new caravan which weighs approx 1200kg, and has a maximum loaded weight of approx 1400kg. Hopefully the drop plate will be suitable for my load.

And if mine comes galvanised than it will suit my tow bar perfectly..


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Im not sure if I need to change all my suspension springs as even though Ive now fitted the tow bar in the lowest possible position, my caravan is still nose high??

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"my caravan nose height is still too high"

I have always found this on Series/Defenders Sad Not much but enough for it not to be level which can cause problems.

Following a camp site owner onto a caravan pitch over uneven ground the pipes and electrics were ripped off the underside when the rear of the caravan bottomed out. The camp site owner initially said that's the trouble with Defenders the tow bar is always too high, it not by responsibility Sir! He gave me the new bits free of charge in the end so I could repair the damage Wink

Worse problems arise when you have a twin axle but Lorrymans caravan set up is level and my boat trailer is the same Confused Must be differing heights of couplings Confused My little trailer is a bit too high at the front but it doesn't matter!
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Better than having it to low I suppose Whistle



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I also use one on my landy and tow the max everyday without issue...the only time i've ever bent one was offroading Mr. Green

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Series drop plates are substantial with the edges having a 90% angle for extra strength.
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WarPig



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Thanks Zag.

When i had my 300tdi rebuilt I had new springs fitted. IIRC I ordered the springs suitable for Defenders without the self leveling device (as I was having it removed). I wonder if I had ordered springs suitable for the self leveling device then my Defender would sit lower?

I noticed when I got into it the first time after its rebuild (with new springs) it was sitting much higher than previously. But I put this down to the old springs being worn?
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Zinke



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Zagato wrote:
Series drop plates are substantial with the edges having a 90% angle for extra strength.


Sounds like a good solution as the holes will line up and its rated to tow 3.5ton.
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