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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731   
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I'm having a discussion with Carglass (Autoglass in the UK) about the cost to professionally (i.e. not LR) re-fit/seal my windscreen. It's
 down with rain all the time here so I can't seal it myself... and my foot is soaking... so I'm just looking at alternatives.
Whether the screen is glued in or not determines the cost and who has to pay if it breaks... MY2011 - any info? Cheers Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Jan 2012 8:46pm |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248  
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No
Old fashioned glass in rubber seal, no glue anywhere. Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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10th Jan 2012 8:49pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Brilliant - but would be better if it didn't leak 
Cheers
Matt p.s. do you happen to know how much a new heated screen costs (approx)? Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Jan 2012 8:51pm |
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| wslr Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Wellington, Somerset Posts: 581 
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The part number is LR009820 which is 'WITH CLEAR GLASS - COMPLETE, WITH HEATED WINDSCREEN' and is GBP 272.89 + VAT
Should be paying no more than GBP50+VAT for fitting. |
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10th Jan 2012 9:02pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Are you sure it's the screen? Have you looked at the bulkhead to frame seal, bracket seals etc too? Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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10th Jan 2012 9:07pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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I can see the water dribbling in just under the windscreen rubber when it's raining, so some is definitely coming in there. I can't tell yet if any is getting through the bulkhead seal - it is wet along the top but that's probably just from under the windscreen rubber above. If the bulkhead seal is leaking, I'm hoping Todger's creeping crack sealant will sort it out (if I can get things dry enough in the work garage... Thanks for the heads up Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Jan 2012 9:34pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Many thanks Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Jan 2012 9:38pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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not exactly an "emergency" yet but its getting worse in the rain and will be much worse when the snow/slush comes and sits on the guttering  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Jan 2012 9:42pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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maybe for the time being, run some grease around the edges to keep the water out until it dries up a little and you can tackle the job in the dry, take your time and get all the right sealants ? (sorry not telling you what to do, just that's what i'd do)
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10th Jan 2012 9:50pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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As I said, I'm looking at all possibilities over the next few days and that's a good one - it will also tell me if the bulkhead seal is leaking too
Actually, if the bulkhead seal is leaking too, keeping it greased might also be a fix for now - unless the grease attacks the foam rubber 
Also just thought that if Carglass break the screen, I could claim it happened on the road and get my insurance to pay for it 
Cheers Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Jan 2012 10:08pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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Personally I'd be wary of using grease anywhere near where you will want to be permanently sealing up at a later stage, getting rid of the grease so that the sealant can take effect / bond is likely to be a PITA. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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11th Jan 2012 9:53am |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10379
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Ten years in the windscreen game, we used this...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARBOMAST-WINDSCR..._518wt_698 |
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11th Jan 2012 10:10am |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5012
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Exactly what you want (Same as the stuff from Frosts.co.uk) because as it says...
"ALWAYS FLEXIBLE ALTHOUGH FORMS A SINK ON THE SURFACE. THIS SEALANT IS USED BETWEEN THE GLASS AND RUBBER AND ALSO THE RUBBER AND BODYWORK TO PREVENT OR TO STOP LEAKAGE" No need to take the rubber out, just seal it and as MOG says avoid grease |
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11th Jan 2012 10:22am |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Thanks all - will only use grease in dire emergencies
I would have to order Arbomast from UK so I'll check out what e.g. Carglass use here (probably similar). Last questions: 1) If I do get Carglass to do the whole job (they now tell me they can for around 50 quid), do you think I should get a new rubber seal? This one is only 10 months old and I can only find cheapo copies (30 quid) on the German net? 2) If the bulkhead-frame seal is leaking, I have loads of butyl tape I can use to make a permanent flexible barrier covering the foam rubber seal from the outside - is there any reason the seal has to be open to the air? Many thanks Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... Last edited by ZeDefender on 11th Jan 2012 12:18pm. Edited 2 times in total |
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11th Jan 2012 12:16pm |
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