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kevin-h



Member Since: 24 Mar 2020
Location: Huddersfield
Posts: 27

United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 HT Keswick Green
Have insurance premiums shot through the roof?
My current insurer have upped the insurance on my 2015 Defender 110 Hard Top for the renewal year from £770 to £830, two years ago it was £440. I have been with them for four years. Right I thought, I will look elsewhere.
I have tried multiple 'specialist' insurers and van insurers but the vast majority are demanding from £1.4K up to £2.9K! Those two offers were from the two most recommended insurers.

I'm 53, have been driving since 1994 and have a full clean driving licence with 6 years NCB. My Defender is very lightly modified; a CTEK dual input battery charger with a leisure battery and a solar panel installed on a roof rack enabling me to run a fridge whilst on camping trips, with an aftermarket bluetooth Alpine stereo unit with a subwoofer and rear speakers added, all work that was done by a registered auto electrician.

I can't understand why even specialist 4x4 insurers are quoting me so high when the car is so lightly modified and I'm not requesting green lane or off road insurance. Is my post code in West Yorkshire so bad?

Anyway, I'm wondering if this is related to the much-hyped cost of living crisis and if others have noticed increased premiums of late?
Post #999661 11th Jul 2023 6:48pm
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Welshsurferdude



Member Since: 23 Feb 2012
Location: Newport
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Wales 
Could be to do with your post code, Yorkshire is very bad for thefts 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)

2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS

2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold)

2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)
Post #999666 11th Jul 2023 7:09pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17387

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I've just renewed mine, the premium this year went from just under £300 to just over £410, and increase of 38%. The same insurer insures my Disco2 which I renewed a month earlier, that increased by 15%.

Naturally I questioned this, the next best figure the broker could find was over £700. It seems it is a reflection of the cost of repairing and replacing Defenders. Perhaps the cost of mending the new Defender is being passed on.

This is a specialist broker who's had business from me for at least 35 years.

I'm sorry to say your post has made me a whole lot happier!
Post #999667 11th Jul 2023 7:17pm
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Ianh



Member Since: 17 Sep 2018
Location: Essex
Posts: 2008

United Kingdom 
Try A plan, site sponsor, but phone the correct office https://www.defender2.net/forum/a-plan-insurance-vf47.html


Premiums have gone up, and one area to blame is electric vehicles,. What was considered a relatively small amount of repairable damage to an internal combustion engined vehicle is now a write off for an electrical vehicle . This is because the batteries are part of the structure and it’s hard to be certain they are not damaged. This means that cost is passed on across all vehicles as it may be the fault of the ICE vehicle causing an electric vehicle write off. And electric vehicles are expensive.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/electr....html[url]

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/electr...n-off.html
Post #999671 11th Jul 2023 7:26pm
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kevin-h



Member Since: 24 Mar 2020
Location: Huddersfield
Posts: 27

United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 HT Keswick Green
Thanks Ian,
Unfortunately A Plan gave the worst offer! I dealt with the Bletchley office.
Post #999690 11th Jul 2023 8:41pm
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markb110



Member Since: 22 May 2010
Location: Guildford
Posts: 2639

England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
When we renewed my wife's Velar a couple of months ago she bought the premium down by reducing the annual milage to 10k a year (due to three days working from home) and increased the voluntary excess from £100 to £250.

Prices elsewhere were either higher than the original renewal or they wouldn't quote directly but would quote via a broker. The other thing that i noticed is that some of the brokers that would quote were using insurers that i hadn't even heard of, probably Lloyds of London. But that didn't inspire confidence so we were happier to stay with the NFU.

My 90TD5 didn't go up much more than I've experienced before.

Interesting about the comment re electric vehicles as i was reading recently that accident damaged EV's will soon have to be stored spaced out due to the fear of fire. And hence this will increase premiums.

Unfortunately for the consumer the rise of online quotes for convenience has put everyone into boxes and there is no longer personalised insurance or even an insurance underwriter for the broker to call for support or a discount.

Years ago when i was working as an account manager for an insurance company i got to see a number of brokers specialising in personal lines (home / car / CV). The thing that stood out was that they were mostly kids on the phones, 17 to 23 on average with no real life experience and probably still living at home and probably only insure their own car.

They don't need experienced staff, they just need to read the questions on the computer screen and have the chat to get the credit card.

And when they say 'i'am just checking the market or i'll speak to my manager' that is BS. They have a list of premiums in front of them and they are told to quote the business with the insurer that they have a deal with and are paying the most commission.

The 'i'll speak to the manager' is them offering an alternative quote as something is better than nothing, then the renewal the following year is them moving the business over to get more commission in the hope the consumer doesn't question it.
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LandRoverAnorak



Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
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kevin-h wrote:
Thanks Ian,
Unfortunately A Plan gave the worst offer! I dealt with the Bletchley office.

You really need to deal with the Thatcham office for the best prices for Land Rovers.

Mine went up from £344 to £409 this year, about 19%, after being pretty static for several years previously. Seems to be the way of the world at the moment. Darren

110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak

"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia
Post #999720 12th Jul 2023 1:13am
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Bluest



Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 4210

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Mine went up by a similar amount this year after being static for several years. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #999726 12th Jul 2023 6:13am
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Rosco



Member Since: 03 Dec 2010
Location: Burntwood
Posts: 1833

United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
I've had similar experience for this years renewal.

For the last couple of years we've had a multi-car policy which was cheaper than 3 seperate policies, plus far easier to manage, but it jumped from £1200 to £1900.

I rang A-Plan to quote just the Defender and they wanted nearly £2.5k!!

I've shopped around and those lovely meerkats found me 3 policies for the same price as last years. Just means I've far more admin to do 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone
2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW
Post #999762 12th Jul 2023 9:50am
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kevin-h



Member Since: 24 Mar 2020
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 HT Keswick Green
Rosco,
That’s exactly my experience with A plan.
Post #999763 12th Jul 2023 9:58am
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MarkBrown



Member Since: 03 Oct 2022
Location: Mid Wales
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Wales 1983 Defender 110 Other HT Auto Keswick Green
Mine was in the region of £250 this year, starting January. I don't think that's too bad, fully comp, agreed value, business use, 12k limit and they'll hold on to my NCB, in case I want it for something else. It's be a company called Brentacre who do modified car insurance.

Just over two years ago, so Jan '21, I paid £85 fully comp for my 110.
Post #999838 12th Jul 2023 10:12pm
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C&M



Member Since: 28 Aug 2020
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 185

United Kingdom 
I've been on a Multi car plan with LV for a few years now and its been pretty good up until this year.

my 3 cars on his policy went from just under £900 to £1,350.

My old Defender didnt go up too much, the biggest jump was on my new one.

but on looking around I wasnt going to save a great deal so stuck with LV for now at least. Defender D250 HSE
Dender 110 XS - sadly gone
VW Polo
VW Caravelle - Gen 6
Post #999851 13th Jul 2023 5:20am
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BaronDefenders



Member Since: 28 Jun 2019
Location: London/Cotswolds
Posts: 896

United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Santorini Black
I renewed my 90’s policy a few weeks ago, and it actually was £50 less than the 2022 renewal. Charlie

1949 Series 1 80 (SOLD)
2002 Td5 90 (SOLD)
2008 Freelander 2 (SOLD)

1958 Series 2 88 Pastel Green (2019 LR Legends Best Restored)
1983 V8 110 Limestone (Previously owned by Tom Sheppard MBE)
2004 Td5 90 Santorini Black (Td5INSIDE Powered & Rebuilt by CSK)
2012 Puma 110 Zermatt Silver (Overlanding Build)

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Post #999917 13th Jul 2023 1:40pm
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PCM



Member Since: 25 Jan 2019
Location: North East
Posts: 874

United Kingdom 
Apart from A-plan what are people using?
My renewal quote has over doubled despite being secure parked and heavily security modified.
Seems a shame and A-plan were really apologetic. They just said lots of insurers that used to insure defenders no longer do.
Post #999955 13th Jul 2023 5:21pm
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lonewolf



Member Since: 23 Oct 2013
Location: North East England
Posts: 210

United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Zambezi Silver
I've just had my renewal quote and its gone up 242% from last year.
90 Defender, 4000 miles per year, I'm 67 years old, vehicle parked on a locked driveway with added security. Only 2 years no claims though (double that of last year mind Smile )
I have had lower quotes from confused.com but they're still £180 more than last year > (£328.56)
Of course I'm one of the 'lucky' ones who pay the high road tax as well. Its getting to the point where it's costing about £1200 before the cars turned a wheel!!!!
Go compare was steep too so time to try the meerkats.
I've read all the A-Plan blurb but by what people are saying it all seems a load of hot air imho.
I was going to try them but perhaps I wont bother.
Oh by the way my motorcycle insurance also went up this year........ by 71p......nuff said.
Post #1003112 5th Aug 2023 3:02pm
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