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Yorkshire lad



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Indus Silver
2.2 whistle/siren type noise
Hi just after picking peoples brains on here I've got a 2015 2.2 90 and at 60,000 miles the turbo failed around the time the turbo failed it developed a siren type noise like a ambulance is behind you when driving in the lower gears.so off it went and got a new turbo intercooler flushed out silicone hoses fitted and a good all round service while in garage. But when it came back there was still this siren type noise so back it went and the garage said the Ford engine is a Whiny engine the I've done 6,000 miles since the and it drives brilliant but still has this siren type noise that it once never had.πŸ€”πŸ€”
Post #994650 31st May 2023 4:42pm
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cretesimon



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Hi had the same on one land rover was the exhaust manifold out of shape where it bolts to turbo remove heat shield and check nuts are tight and look for black shoot on shield as that's a sign of a failure
Post #994694 1st Jun 2023 5:09am
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blackwolf



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Also check the exhaust manifold to cylinder head joint, if the fasteners are loose the gasket can vibrate and make really weird noises.
Post #994700 1st Jun 2023 6:26am
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Yorkshire lad



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Indus Silver
I shall have a look when I get home today and report back with my findings. Thank you
Post #994703 1st Jun 2023 6:45am
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Yorkshire lad



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Indus Silver
Hi, blackwolf/Crete Simon I had a really good look this afternoon after about 30 minutes of trying to get all of those bolts out securing the heat shield.😑🀬. Everything looked secure all nuts was tight and no signs of soot anywhere.πŸ€”
Post #994743 1st Jun 2023 4:17pm
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MatLandy



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It is not always obvious to identify a slightly loose bolt or soot traces in the area of the exhaust manifold/turbo.

My experience on my 2.4 is that a very small leakage of exhaust gas with almost no visible soot trace, can create a very loud siren like noise. I had this high pitched noise on my 2.4, that was audible only under certain acceleration circumstances. In effect there was only very little soot visible at one corner of the gasket between the manifold and turbo, but having no better lead or idea, I changed the gasket for the improved Nakatanenga HD gasket. That sealed it for good and got rid of the noise. It has never come back since, and that was 2 yrs / 20 000 kms ago.

/Mat

The only potential soot trace I could see is circled in red (note: on this picture, I had already started to remove the bolts to swap the gasket):

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The new Nakatanenga HD gasket in place:

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Post #994816 2nd Jun 2023 8:56am
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Yorkshire lad



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Indus Silver
Thank you mat landy I'll have another look tomorrow and really have a good look and get a new gasket ordered because it's very annoying. And it never did it before the turbo failed.πŸ˜”β˜ΉοΈ
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Yorkshire lad



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Sad So today I set about removing turbo heat shield to try find where this whistle/siren noise might be coming from but all look well no signs of soot anywhere no loose nuts. So what could I check next you hear it most in 1st and 2nd at about 2000 revs. β˜ΉοΈπŸ€”
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Yorkshire lad



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Indus Silver

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Post #999122 7th Jul 2023 8:55pm
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Siwynne



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Is there any gasket between turbo and manifold. Photos a bit blurry but line seems very thin. Mat lads pics show a thick naka gasket a thin standard one but yours appears to be none existent.
Post #999127 7th Jul 2023 9:12pm
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MatLandy



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As per this post https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic84690.html there indeed seems to be no gasket on the 2.2 between turbo/manifold. The picture I shared are from my 2.4, which had a gasket between turbo/manifold from factory.

/Mat
Post #999165 8th Jul 2023 8:08am
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Siwynne



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Mine has a gasket between turbo and exhaust manifold Dec 2012 2.2 registered jan 2013. The head was replaced at about 60k so the dealer might have put a gasket in then. I have recently replaced the turbo core and replaced the gasket. I have heard them make a very aloud siren noise when the egr to exhaust manifold is not tight. It’s like when you blow a blade of grass between thumbs. The gasket vibrates and makes a hell of a noise
Post #999192 8th Jul 2023 12:28pm
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Yorkshire lad



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Indus Silver
It's just a strange one it drives perfect pulls really well returns good mpg and has been the same for about 6000 miles it's just annoying as it's not always been there only started doing it just as turbo failed.β˜ΉοΈπŸ˜–πŸ€”
Post #999251 8th Jul 2023 6:34pm
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