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the_lincs_landies

Member Since: 29 May 2023
Location: Boston, Lincs
Posts: 230

KN Predator

Hi All,

I am lead to believe the wheels on my Defender 110 are made by KN (which it appears are no longer trading as far as I can tell) and are the Predator model in a 17" Alloy Wheel (see image below).

Click image to enlarge

All 4 of the wheels are really old and tired (chipped paint, oxidation etc.), and could do with a refurb - but then again, so are the nuts. One of the nuts is missing from the spare, and I have had no luck finding the "specialist" nuts:-

funrover.com wrote:
the nut actually wraps around the stud and is sandwiched between the wheel and stud

Does anyone know where I may be able to get hold of these nuts, so I can get the wheel refurbished, or am I better off cutting my losses, selling these wheels, and getting new wheels?

Thanks in advance

Kieren

7th Jun 2023 3:01pm

Mossberg

Member Since: 29 Feb 2020
Location: Lancs
Posts: 553

1993 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Aintree Green

Have you tried a standard defender alloy wheel nut?

7th Jun 2023 3:33pm

mwestcrew

Member Since: 09 Dec 2019
Location: South Warwickshire
Posts: 247

2011 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Baltic Blue

I run the same wheels on my 130.

A standard wheel nut doesn’t fit at all, the nuts seem to be special to the wheel.

I believe that these wheels were only sold in the UK by John Craddock (I bought a set in 2003 from them) so it might worth speaking to them.

Let me know how you get on if you do please.

Click image to enlarge 2011 130 Utility Body
2005 110 Van

7th Jun 2023 4:18pm

the_lincs_landies

Member Since: 29 May 2023
Location: Boston, Lincs
Posts: 230

Quote:
Have you tried a standard defender alloy wheel nut?

Yeah, I ordered a full set to replace them not having the sense to check them first

Quote:
I run the same wheels on my 130.

A standard wheel nut doesn’t fit at all, the nuts seem to be special to the wheel.

I believe that these wheels were only sold in the UK by John Craddock (I bought a set in 2003 from them) so it might worth speaking to them.

Let me know how you get on if you do please.

Will give them a message in the morning, will let you know if I hear anything. John Craddocks do come up when you google the wheels but as a discontinued item, which is why I wonder if KN Alloys are still trading at all.

7th Jun 2023 6:17pm

the_lincs_landies

Member Since: 29 May 2023
Location: Boston, Lincs
Posts: 230

mwestcrew wrote:
Let me know how you get on if you do please.

Emailed them today, got an email back within the hour saying they couldnt get the nuts for those wheels.

8th Jun 2023 12:42pm

Chris S

Member Since: 22 May 2023
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 43

You could get some like Wrington to make them for you, not sure of the cost. Just an idea.

8th Jun 2023 1:56pm

the_lincs_landies

Member Since: 29 May 2023
Location: Boston, Lincs
Posts: 230

I had thought about it, will look into it though now I know I cant get them. If its too much I'll just get new wheels.

8th Jun 2023 2:13pm

camelman

Member Since: 27 Feb 2013
Location: Peak District
Posts: 3370

If they are 24mm, Twisted do them to fit their sports wheels and look like they are the same as yours.

You'll have to shell out £130 though

https://www.twistedautomotive.com/store/product/the-sport-nut/

8th Jun 2023 2:21pm

camelman

Member Since: 27 Feb 2013
Location: Peak District
Posts: 3370

mwestcrew wrote:
I run the same wheels on my 130.

A standard wheel nut doesn’t fit at all, the nuts seem to be special to the wheel.

I believe that these wheels were only sold in the UK by John Craddock (I bought a set in 2003 from them) so it might worth speaking to them.

Let me know how you get on if you do please.

Click image to enlarge

Have you checked the alloys are load rated for your 130? Most alloy wheels aren't as they need to have at least a 1100kg rating. 110s don't need that high a rating as the rear axle has a lower weight capacity.

8th Jun 2023 2:29pm

the_lincs_landies

Member Since: 29 May 2023
Location: Boston, Lincs
Posts: 230

camelman wrote:

If they are 24mm, Twisted do them to fit their sports wheels and look like they are the same as yours.

You'll have to shell out £130 though

https://www.twistedautomotive.com/store/product/the-sport-nut/

Still too short sadly, I'd looked at these. Almost the entire thread is covered by the cylindrical part, then the entirety of the head sits proud from the wheel.

The wheels need a refurb anyway, so I may just cut my losses, get some new wheels, and sell these wheels and nuts to someone on the cheap for them to refurb and tidy up the existing nuts. By the time you take tyres out of the equation there isnt a lot to be saved.

8th Jun 2023 2:30pm

Bps

Member Since: 14 Feb 2016
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 825

Wheel nuts

Try wrington im sure they might do them.

8th Jun 2023 5:06pm

the_lincs_landies

Member Since: 29 May 2023
Location: Boston, Lincs
Posts: 230

Thanks for the suggestions, Will drop a line to Wrington about a cost for having some machined, checked the website and they don’t have the relevant ones “off the shelf”

8th Jun 2023 5:10pm

Norfolklandy

Member Since: 30 Dec 2023
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1

Did you have any luck?

Did you have any luck finding any? I’ve just brought a set of alloys but I’m missing 2 wheel nuts 🔩
Would be great to be able to get them on my 90

30th Dec 2023 9:56pm

Andreaschristensen

Member Since: 27 Feb 2024
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 5

2000 Defender 110 2.5 TD CSW Keswick Green

Hay

I am my self running KN Predator like yours, but I have with out any luck been looking for a reserve wheel. If you have any luck in your search please let me know alternatively if you give up the search and am interested in buying the best of you old wheels. Kind regards Andreas

27th Feb 2024 8:52pm

the_lincs_landies

Member Since: 29 May 2023
Location: Boston, Lincs
Posts: 230

No luck I'm afraid, and I no longer have the car

29th Feb 2024 7:53am

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