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LandRoverAnorak



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Thanks Clayton Very Happy This thread's not very interactive unfortunately, but it seems to be getting lots of views so I'll keep plugging away at it. Darren

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Post #993964 25th May 2023 9:19am
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Inspirational Darren. Inspirational. Thumbs Up
Post #993967 25th May 2023 9:41am
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I think the thread is great as i see how you come up with a solution which might come in handy for anyone and then improve on it as your doing the said idea.

You mentioned you came down to Exeter for the uni, not to far away from me Whistle 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Clayton.
Post #994031 25th May 2023 7:43pm
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LandRoverAnorak



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Thanks, chaps. I've diverted onto another project for a week or so but will be back on the trailer next week Smile Darren

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Post #994434 29th May 2023 8:16pm
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L110CDL



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Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Clayton.
Post #994670 31st May 2023 8:14pm
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LandRoverAnorak



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A concerted push over the last week has seen much progress on my wiring odyssey and the light is now clearly visible at the end of the tunnel. So here we go:

All of the wiring through the gas locker and wardrobe is complete and the containment buttoned up. I had to replace the trunking in the wardrobe with something slightly deeper as there’s a lot of wiring passing through there:


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Work in the kitchen has also been completed, with the addition of switches to control the USB sockets and to independently control the light. These are not in the most ideal position but one of them filled an existing hole in the trunking. Space is tight behind them though, so the connections have been soldered rather than using crimp terminals to save a bit of space:


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The wiring to the solar panel has finally been reinstated via a new hole through the front panel. As well as being hidden behind the panel itself, this is protected by a plastic shroud. This has been reused from the original installation but has had a seal added to the rear face and is secured with more screws to ensure a tight fit:


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I’ve modified the inverter by cutting into and extending the on/off switch wiring, which will allow it to be controlled remotely by a relay. As installed, it was permanently powered even when not in use, as the on/off switch was hidden away behind the batteries:


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In the battery box, all of the wiring has now been reinstated in a logical fashion and secured. On the left hand side, a relay has been added to control the power feed to the fridge. Under normal circumstances, the fridge is fed from the trailer batteries via the control panel. However, when the towing vehicle is connected, the permanent live in the towing electrics is used to switch the fridge over to the towing vehicle fridge circuit. This is basically the same as caravan.

You can see the relay here, beneath the large fuse that protects the control panel. Beneath the relay is a terminal block that’s divided into two, the red half being towing vehicle permanent live and the black half being earth:


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On the other side of the battery box is another, much larger 200 amp relay, that connects the Anderson socket charge cable to the batteries. As installed, this socket was permanently connected to the batteries and so was live all of the time. The relay is driven by the same towing vehicle permanent live as the fridge one, which means that the plug is only live when hitched up:


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On the front panel of the battery box I’ve added a mains socket, a switched 12v DIN socket and a switch that manually overrides the Anderson socket relay in case I actually want it live for any reason:


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The DIN socket is for use with a pump that can be used to refill the onboard water tank from an external carrier.

With all of that completed, the battery box is finally finished! The batteries have now been reinstalled for hopefully the final time and all cables secured:


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That’s in stark contrast to how it originally looked Shocked


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The current state of play is that all of the wiring from across the whole trailer has now been brought together in a neat and secure manner to the back of the control panel:


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The panel itself has been modified slightly to include an on/off switch for the USB sockets on the side of the panel enclosure. This necessitated remaking the switch panel but gave me the opportunity to smarted it up and add some labels:


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The control panel has now been re-fitted and all that remains is to connect everything up!


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Tune in next week for hopefully the final installment... Darren

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Post #995914 11th Jun 2023 4:30pm
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L110CDL



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Thank you Darren for that update and you can see for sure you have been in there to sort it all out properly, what a difference with the before n after pics Bow down

A question for you Darren . . . on the positive and negative terminals, you joined them up with the appropriate coloured wires, is this extra " covering all bases " for the coloured source for where they go off to ?

Thanks again Very Happy 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Clayton.
Post #996041 12th Jun 2023 7:46pm
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LandRoverAnorak



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Thanks Clayton. Yes, the link cables are colour coded red for positive and black for negative. These parts are original to the trailer but it's a pretty standard arrangement and I've done the same for the second battery on my 110. Darren

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L110CDL



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Thank you Darren Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Clayton.
Post #996060 12th Jun 2023 9:05pm
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LandRoverAnorak



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Electrics Pt 5 - Mains Controls and Finishing Touches
Hello folks,

I'm embarrassed to find that it's more than a year since I updated this thread! Life has taken a turn for the busy in the time since (new job, two kids off to university, etc, etc) and there's been very little time to make progress. That, however, is now changing and I've resumed my work on it, driven by the fact my wife and I are booked to go away in mid-August. There's nothing like a deadline...

So, picking up where I left off a couple of posts above, I've now finished reinstating all of the wiring. Even better is that it all seems to work. This is the space behind the control panel, with all of the mains and 12v wiring back in place:


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In the end, I was able to simplify my plan for the mains wiring via the large changeover switch for selecting either mains or inverter 240v supply. Because the panel isn't really designed for use with that choice, there was an anomaly in the original installation that resulted in a complete additional distribution board hidden behind paneling, which was to prevent the nonsense situation of the inverter driving the battery charger. However, I worked out that I could combine all of the mains earths to one stud and use the freed up switches within the changeover switch to turn on and off both the charger and the inverter, depending on which type of supply was selected. It did require bypassing the built-in on/off switch on the inverter and cutting into the mains sensing wire for the charger, but it's all relatively straightforward stuff. This, in turn, allowed me to use the mains breakers built into the control panel and get rid of a huge amount of additional wiring. It sounds complicated but I'm really pleased with what is now a much more elegant solution.

Even though I salvaged and re-used most of the original installation, this is all of the surplus wire and related stuff that I've removed during this process Shocked


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With all of that complete, I was able to have a tidy up and finish the inside of the battery locker by fitting the back panels and making a rubber mat for the floor:


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Finally for this locker, I also fitted a door stay which, like the ones described earlier in the thread, is a galvanised stay for a garden gate together with some aluminium brackets. Unlike the other doors, this one is arranged to hold the door at 90 degrees to the body to allow for the tent annex to hang behind it:


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Finally for now, I've also fitted my NATO hitch to the rear of my D4, via a Motorradical 'recovery hitch' from A.P.B Trading and paired it with a Dixon Bate-style adjustable tow bar. This, in turn, allowed me to fit the NATO hitch on a slider. It's slightly lower than on my previous 110 but not unduly so:


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Next on the list is to swap the wheels back to those that match the Discovery, and build some shelves in the wardrobe! Darren

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Post #1041525 31st Jul 2024 9:42pm
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L110CDL



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Hi there Darren

Yes time can get busy but great you have a deadline to get to with the expedition trailer, which means we get an update from you Very Happy

Great to hear that your all okay Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

Keeper.

Clayton.
Post #1042007 5th Aug 2024 7:28pm
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LandRoverAnorak



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Thanks, Clayton. Nice to hear from you, too.

I'm currently rebuilding the wardrobe interior to a more useful layout and with lighter materials but have run out of the right sort of screws so will have to wait until the weekend to finish Rolling Eyes Darren

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Hi Darren

Looks great Thumbs Up

Jim
Post #1042056 6th Aug 2024 10:16am
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LandRoverAnorak



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Thanks, Jim. It's getting there...slowly. Darren

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Post #1042058 6th Aug 2024 11:25am
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Nearly ready to share the wardrobe update (waiting for varnish to dry before final assembly) but in the meantime I've replaced the Defender wheels with those for a D4:


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 Darren

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