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TexasRover

Member Since: 24 Nov 2022
Location: Paris
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2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Chawton White

Bottom Door Seal for Sill post 2005 fit on 2003 model year?

Hi All,

I am refurbishing the doors on my 2003 110 and came across these bottom seals on LRParts marked as post 2005. They are obviously different and look much better than the twisted lip style seals on my car. So question is do these fit? The go up the side as well, how does that work with the standard door seals? I am obviously not too worried about having to drill a hole..

https://www.lrparts.net/catalog/product/vi...tyle-seal/

Finally, I know from experience that aftermarket (Britpart etc) seals tend to be too hard and only the original LR seals work well, does this apply to these bottom seals as well?

Thanks

29th Jan 2023 7:02pm

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2640

You might be able to fit them but you’d have to drill the holes in the door frame, and also cut the tails off where they go up the side.

I’ve seen them fitted to the sill instead of the door, again with the tails cut off.

I definitely wouldn’t buy Britpart ones

29th Jan 2023 7:14pm

andy2111

Member Since: 17 Oct 2021
Location: Kent
Posts: 365

I have this mod on my to do list. Needs a little effort but fitting the Puma seals will have the best end result.

http://defender90xs.blogspot.com/2014/08/u...s.html?m=1 TD5 hardtop to Puma inspired Poptop - my build thread

2002 110 TD5 Hardtop ¦ Full Puma interior ¦ Carpathian grey / Santorini black ¦ X-Vision-X poptop

29th Jan 2023 7:47pm

jimmyvonk

Member Since: 31 Aug 2017
Location: Melton Constable, Norfolk
Posts: 34

Thanks for the link - about to have a go at this this week so a great help!

29th Jan 2023 10:28pm

andy2111

Member Since: 17 Oct 2021
Location: Kent
Posts: 365

Let us know how it goes and if you notice the difference with the new seals... TD5 hardtop to Puma inspired Poptop - my build thread

2002 110 TD5 Hardtop ¦ Full Puma interior ¦ Carpathian grey / Santorini black ¦ X-Vision-X poptop

30th Jan 2023 8:01am

Linds Hanson

Member Since: 16 Jan 2021
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 485

They fit ok on earlier doors also without cutting anything off (that completley defeates the object of them) Best to make a jig for hole drilling though from thin aluminium or plastic

30th Jan 2023 10:38am

4RF RDS

Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 931

2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green

These will fit the early welded doors quite well. Just move the plastic clips to new holes on the rubber seal and line them up with the remaining holes on the bottom of the door when you drill out the OE bottom seal. Only two need to be moved. Quite easy really. After that only two holes need to drilled in your door frame, to secure the side plastic tab.

Do it, well worth the effort. Good luck

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30th Jan 2023 1:50pm

jimmyvonk

Member Since: 31 Aug 2017
Location: Melton Constable, Norfolk
Posts: 34

So, went out and did mine today on a 2004 Defender TD5.

I just ripped off the old rubber seals, and pulled out / drilled out the old rivets and marked up and drilled the new side holes.
All the original holes were fine, just needed new ones for the end bits.
Made sure all holes were 5mm, painted the holes and any bare metal and went to the next door.
When all doors done, went back to the start and now the paint was dry, fitted the seals.

Huge improvement, less sunlight in the footwell!

And all done and dusted in about 2 hours. All went far to well for a Landy job.

Last edited by jimmyvonk on 4th Feb 2023 2:31pm. Edited 1 time in total

2nd Feb 2023 12:56pm

andy2111

Member Since: 17 Oct 2021
Location: Kent
Posts: 365

Thanks for sharing the update - looks great!

Interesting that all the bottom holes lined up - my truck is the same age as yours, but my doors were replaced about 5 years ago so I may or may not be as lucky as you.. TD5 hardtop to Puma inspired Poptop - my build thread

2002 110 TD5 Hardtop ¦ Full Puma interior ¦ Carpathian grey / Santorini black ¦ X-Vision-X poptop

3rd Feb 2023 8:48am

rallysteve

Member Since: 10 Feb 2014
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 2227

2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Keswick Green

jimmyvonk wrote:
So, went out and did mine today on a 2002 Defender TD5.

I just ripped off the old rubber seals, and pulled out / drilled out the old rivets and marked up and drilled the new side holes.
All the original holes were fine, just needed new ones for the end bits.
Made sure all holes were 5mm, painted the holes and any bare metal and went to the next door.
When all doors done, went back to the start and now the paint was dry, fitted the seals.

Huge improvement, less sunlight in the footwell!

And all done and dusted in about 2 hours. All went far to well for a Landy job.

But your doors are already the later style pressed ones which these seals are designed for. They must have been retrofitted onto your 02.

Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread

3rd Feb 2023 9:23am

jimmyvonk

Member Since: 31 Aug 2017
Location: Melton Constable, Norfolk
Posts: 34

Quote:
But your doors are already the later style pressed ones which these seals are designed for. They must have been retrofitted onto your 02.

The flap seals look to have been on from new, and as I had to drill extra holes for the ends must have been like that from the factory. Maybe 02ish was a changover period.

The joys of Defenders is playing guess the spec.

Went out for a run today and much less drafty and I 'think' less road noise.

3rd Feb 2023 12:24pm

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2640

The newer seals didn’t come in until 2012 or something like that, they had the simple rubber flap ones up to then, so your retrofitted doors were from a 2005-2012 vehicle.

A 2002 would definitely have had the old welded doors from the factory, with the exception of the rear tailgate which was updated from 2002 model year.

3rd Feb 2023 12:52pm

Linds Hanson

Member Since: 16 Jan 2021
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 485

I wonder what colour they are inside the doors?

3rd Feb 2023 1:25pm

andy2111

Member Since: 17 Oct 2021
Location: Kent
Posts: 365

I've just ordred 2 genuine weatherstrip seals to do my truck

Any recommendations on how best to rustproof the new holes I'll have to drill? TD5 hardtop to Puma inspired Poptop - my build thread

2002 110 TD5 Hardtop ¦ Full Puma interior ¦ Carpathian grey / Santorini black ¦ X-Vision-X poptop

3rd Feb 2023 1:57pm

jimmyvonk

Member Since: 31 Aug 2017
Location: Melton Constable, Norfolk
Posts: 34

Retroanaconda wrote:
The newer seals didn’t come in until 2012 or something like that, they had the simple rubber flap ones up to then, so your retrofitted doors were from a 2005-2012 vehicle.

A 2002 would definitely have had the old welded doors from the factory, with the exception of the rear tailgate which was updated from 2002 model year.

Hmm, you made me check now... registered 12/04, chassis number is 5A 69**** I made a mistake and blame night shifts..

Sorry.

4th Feb 2023 2:30pm

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