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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3421   
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The original nozzle is actually 2 piece so your is not broken. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
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21st Dec 2022 4:34pm |
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| Penfold_6290 Member Since: 22 Sep 2021 Location: Dorset Posts: 320  
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Dinnu is right, not what you want to hear when you've got the dash in a thousand pieces. Consider an upgrade now you have two nozzles - one new one and two halves that can be reunited. You need a t-piece (from Halfords) and a short length of hose.
I fitted a nozzle in each of the redundant holes where the wipers fit on LHD models. The original pump has plenty of flow and the whole windscreen gets water. Just remember to get a grommet for the now redundant centre hole. Also a lot easier to get to to nip up the nut. Tip - put the nut over the pipe, put the pipe on the nozzle = no dropped nuts to grovel for down the back of the dash.  Click image to enlarge |
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21st Dec 2022 4:43pm |
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| Hufflepuff Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: Hampshire Posts: 727  
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How does it attach then Dinnu? If I push it on, it just springs off immediately?
It looks like a single piece on LRWorkshop: Click image to enlarge I did ponder carefully it was actually broken or in two pieces, and didn't reach a solid conclusion other than it won't go back and stay on. 2005 Td5 90 XS 1989 V8 110 CSW Last edited by Hufflepuff on 21st Dec 2022 4:49pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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21st Dec 2022 4:45pm |
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| Hufflepuff Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: Hampshire Posts: 727
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That is cunning Penfold, thanks the tip! I've put the dash all back together now (badly, ended up with a screw left over...?!)
If there is a quick solution for this weekend's driving by reusing the original one somehow, I'm all up for that. 2005 Td5 90 XS 1989 V8 110 CSW |
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21st Dec 2022 4:48pm |
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| Penfold_6290 Member Since: 22 Sep 2021 Location: Dorset Posts: 320
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Did you get the new nozzle fitted or is the original still in situ?
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21st Dec 2022 4:50pm |
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| Hufflepuff Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: Hampshire Posts: 727
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No I abandoned ship and wrote the job off as a bad 'un - as per the original post I have no idea how to get to the nut on the back of the original nozzle to get it off. 2005 Td5 90 XS
1989 V8 110 CSW |
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21st Dec 2022 4:53pm |
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| Penfold_6290 Member Since: 22 Sep 2021 Location: Dorset Posts: 320
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You may need a willing helper and get them to turn the nozzle from the outside while you hold an appropriate spanner on the nut from the inside, only half a turn at a time so you don't twist the pipe too much and then you can spin it off with your fingers from the inside. Be careful with the bit where the pipe attaches, it will be brittle. If you do plan to do what I did (fit two nozzles) and wish to reuse it you might be wise to not try and pull the pipe off. Instead cut the feed hose near where the passenger side nozzle will go, fit your original nozzle here with its pipe still attached, fit the t-peice then run the new pipe across to where the drivers side nozzle will be and fit the new one that side.
When off the vehicle the two halves of your original nozzle will push back together and sit very snugly together. |
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21st Dec 2022 4:59pm |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3421
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Watch this video.. at about 2:40.
But if yours is not holding, maybe it is damaged (check for cracks). I recently needed to paint the bulkhead on my puma, and did not want to mask the windscreen washer... so thought I could separate, and mask just the little part that goes through the bulkhead, but ended up shearing it from inside the bulkhead. The little self tapper was used to pull out the broken remnant. https://www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/u..._4984.jpeg So perhaps there is a range of tolerances for these parts. So if you ask how I changed it, mine is a Puma, and if fairly easy to get to through the center facia. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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21st Dec 2022 5:00pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17443 
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I've not done this on a TD5 (and on the Puma you can do it through the radio aperture) but usually you'll need a deep socket on the nozzle nut after the pipe's removed.
The (crappy plastic original) nozzle is made in two parts but on neither of the two of mine that failed in this way was it possible to repair them, the first because it got run over before I could recover it and the second just wouldn't stay together. I fitted the Optimill nozzle as part of an holistic squirter upgrade including headlight washers and have never regretted it. |
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21st Dec 2022 5:03pm |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3421
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Could try to glue them together is 'snapping' them together is not working. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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21st Dec 2022 5:07pm |
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| Hufflepuff Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: Hampshire Posts: 727
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Well bother me, I didn't try and hit it on with a rubber hammer Dinnu! Thanks enormously for the video - I will try that tomorrow.
I think the Td5 dash is enclosed at the back so even if I removed front piece I still won't be able to get to it blackwolf. If Dinnu's 'repair' video works for me, I'm sorted in the short term, and I'll schedule in a longer fix when the weather warms up next year. 2005 Td5 90 XS 1989 V8 110 CSW |
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21st Dec 2022 5:09pm |
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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2237 
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If you take the centre console off (the two hidden screws you revealed under the top piece and the two at the bottom. There is a plastic access panel behind the radio which allows access to the washer nozzle. Its only held on with four more screws so not too onerous. The worst bit is the top panel which you have already had off.
I have a spare nozzle if you want one sending? Cheers Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread |
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21st Dec 2022 8:05pm |
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| Hufflepuff Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: Hampshire Posts: 727
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Ah more great information from you thanks Steve!
Thanks also for the offer of the nozzle - but I splashed out on the CIS machined one to replace it. I will tear is all apart again at a future point in time where I can do things without rushing in a lunch break. I'm hoping I can just wallop my old one back on to get me through the Christmas period, as per the video above. 2005 Td5 90 XS 1989 V8 110 CSW |
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21st Dec 2022 9:49pm |
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| MichaelE Member Since: 18 Jan 2020 Location: Crawley West Sussex Posts: 155
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I cut the bridging plate between the 2 side plates off. It serves very little or no purpose. Nothing will fall off. Your dash/bulkhead will all remain in place. It won't be the end of the world. It won't make a scrap of difference to climate change.
If you're really anal about this sort of thing though, you can always make up a replacement plate that either pop rivets or screws on. |
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22nd Dec 2022 2:20am |
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