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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
How are you fixing the newer wheel carrier, John. It looks like the holes are just through the door skin? Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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20th Oct 2022 7:52am |
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Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3428 |
Nice work.
What do you have on the new door? At the bottom my old door cards I had dry wall screws. They go through the steel without the need for drilling. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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20th Oct 2022 7:53am |
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geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410 |
Good effort John I have four doors painted up for Miffy. Do fancy doing those as well
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20th Oct 2022 7:56am |
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excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5852 |
There is a reinforcing plate at the rear Click image to enlarge I was thinking of an additional plate across the back as well 1999 Defender TD5 110 Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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20th Oct 2022 8:06am |
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excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5852 |
This is what I have Click image to enlarge 1999 Defender TD5 110 Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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20th Oct 2022 8:07am |
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excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5852 |
Cheers. It was over a couple of nights after work. I can pop down and lend a hand if you want. 1999 Defender TD5 110 Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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20th Oct 2022 8:09am |
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Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3428 |
Sorry no ideas here other than perhaps go to one of the aftermarket gas struts. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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20th Oct 2022 8:40am |
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donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1845 |
I can say that the Nakatanenga upper gas strut is a nice piece of kit. I'm happy with it after maybe 2 years.
On the other question about drilling holes/using screws to hold things in place, can I put in a vote for using rivnuts. This is what I did when I built up my rear door - and once you start using them, you see other uses all over the place. If you're drilling a hole in a galvanised door for a screw, you might as well drill a slightly bigger one for a rivnut. You can get stainless ones, and I've used M4 or M5 in the doors. I think I've used a company called rivetwise a few times, and a hand-grip setting tool isn't too expensive. Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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20th Oct 2022 9:11am |
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donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1845 |
In the end, I went for a chassis mounted wheel carrier - got a good price on a used one on here. Prior to that coming up I was considering something else to strengthen the door/carry the load of the wheel, as it has certainly destroyed the old door. I had always planned to use a chequer plate rear door lining - the old card one was U/S - so my thinking was: Fit the carrier to the door with longer bolts; Put a nut and large washer onto this bolt against the inside of the door skin; Then, fit a "spacer" to take up the gap between the outer skin and the chequer plate inner cover (I had in mind some structural nylon or delrin thick walled tube, cut to length x 6); Mount the chequer plate (with the carrier bolts protruding); Then put another nut onto the bolt and tighten that up against the chequer plate/spacer. Once you've got the required length of the carrier bolt, you could cut it down and use a 'cap nut' - so avoiding a nut/thread catching clothes, bags etc being loaded in the back. Probably overkill, but my idea was that this would be a 'sandwich' kind of mount, with the load of the wheel being taken in part by more of the door's strengthening ribs, via the chequer plate. That explanation's probably not worked too well... Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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20th Oct 2022 9:21am |
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excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5852 |
that was my thought as well. 1999 Defender TD5 110 Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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20th Oct 2022 9:49am |
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excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5852 |
I hadn't considered Rivnuts (off to google to see how they work) 1999 Defender TD5 110 Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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20th Oct 2022 9:52am |
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donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1845 |
Hi john,
If you can use pop-rivets, you can use rivnuts! Once you get to M8 or above they are a bit of a squeeze with a simple hand tool - or maybe I've just got girly hands! - but there's ways round that. THe only 'downside' as far as I can see is that you need to be a bit more precise in measuring up, to make sure that the holes in your door card, or whatever, need to line up better with the rivnuts, and of course that you make sure the drill doesn't slip/slide when making the hole. If I'm honest, a few of the holes in my chequer door cover which could have been 5mm ended up as 6.5mm just to allow that little adjustment. If you're interested, there's my 'rebuild' thread in my signature. If you go to the lower part of page 6 you can see where I was fitting my new door - which looks exactly like the one you have. Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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20th Oct 2022 10:20am |
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excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5852 |
Cheers Don. Just looking around the rivnuts do indeed appear to be the same process as rivets
I did take a look at your thread and yup pretty much the same door. Like you, I had thought about adding some sound deadening to the door as well. 1999 Defender TD5 110 Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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20th Oct 2022 10:43am |
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geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410 |
That's very kind fella What I need to do first is find some shelter before I start this job. Plus I need a few other bits before I begin too |
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20th Oct 2022 11:05am |
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