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Dave12345



Member Since: 04 Jun 2022
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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Keswick Green
20 year wait over
May as well post a little intro before I go about asking questions.

As a little kid, my great grandad had a much abused Series 2a on the family farm. Went everywhere and did everything, including towing heavy trailers of cattle up hills with its wheezy 2.25. It was the first car I ever drove, on his knee when I couldn’t touch the pedals, and finally by myself when I could.

When he passed and the farm was dissolved a family relative sold it for £200, I was gutted but as a teenager in no position to do anything.

Fast forward 20 years I’m finally in a position to get my own, I did try to buy said Series 2a, as I know where it is, but the guy won’t sell. It’s in bits in his garage, where it’s been for the last decade, but it’ll be done “one day”.

After a couple of years of trying I’ve given up and finally gone out and bought my own Landy. This came up not far away:


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Immediately drove it back to the old family farm. That’s the field I first remember bouncing along as a kid.

It’s an F reg station wagon originally, converted to a 300tdi back in 2012. The previous owner bought it in 2015, and then rebuilt it onto a new galvanised chassis and as a pickup in 2017 through 2019 and has done a superb job. The underneath is sorted with every bush replaced, and it drives surprisingly wel with no rattles. It was protected in 2019 but I’m going to lanoguard it this week before I head out and enjoy it some more.

I’ve only had it a week but it’s kept me busy - refitted the rear quarter windows as they were loose and noisy, indicators stopped working today which I traced to the hazard fuse, and it needs a service so I’m waiting for some oil to arrive from paddocks for that.

In terms of plans I want to convert it back to station wagon, partly for some semblance of originality but also for practicality, and I fancy matching the bonnet with the rest. That’s it for now other than to take it out into the hills and enjoy it!
Post #954566 4th Jun 2022 8:41pm
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Co1



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
Welcome to the forum, and nice truck!

Have a read of Zagato’s thread on corrosion protection in the maintenance section before you go to work with the lanoguard, there is a wealth of info there.
Post #954576 5th Jun 2022 7:21am
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Caterham



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
great combo of colours, wheels, tyres etc.
hope you have many a happy hour Thumbs Up
Post #954597 5th Jun 2022 10:42am
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Dave12345



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Keswick Green
Thanks both! I’ve already had a skim through if that’s the thread I’m thinking of but I’ll definitely go through it again properly before starting. Cleaned it thoroughly underneath yesterday with a small stiff bristle brush - that was arduous- so going to leave it a few days to dry now.

I’ve always been a strong believer in leaving Landys with their war wounds and old paint however I am getting fond of the shinyness of this one and I do love the wheels! I might end up waxing it soon if I’m not careful!

Disappointingly Mo has just confirmed that it won’t fit into my garage with a hardtop (80.25 inches tall with a hardtop vs 79 inches high garage door). I reckon it’d drop the 1/4 inch with the extra weight...so I’m now wondering how much a heavy wheel and carrier on the back, plus maybe drawers would drop the back, and then Alive comfort springs if needed. Not quite sold on the whole lowering a defender thing yet though.

Dig trenches in my garage floor maybe? The lengths we go to...
Post #954598 5th Jun 2022 10:50am
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LandRoverAnorak



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How about a soft top? They're a bit lower and also very cool Smile Darren

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"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia
Post #954600 5th Jun 2022 11:31am
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Dave12345



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Keswick Green
That’s interesting, I’ve been told they’re actually taller so I discounted that quite quickly. I’ll see if I can find some numbers
Post #954601 5th Jun 2022 11:32am
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Co1



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
It’s expensive, but air suspension would allow you to lower it when you head into the garage.
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Dave12345



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Keswick Green
Great idea but definitely beyond my means unfortunately
Post #954609 5th Jun 2022 12:11pm
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
Dave12345 wrote:


Disappointingly Mo has just confirmed that it won’t fit into my garage with a hardtop (80.25 inches tall with a hardtop vs 79 inches high garage door). I reckon it’d drop the 1/4 inch with the extra weight...so I’m now wondering how much a heavy wheel and carrier on the back, plus maybe drawers would drop the back, and then Alive comfort springs if needed. Not quite sold on the whole lowering a defender thing yet though.


If you have standard springs, they are rated at 225lb/in. So you would need 450lb right above the axle for it to lower by 1". But since the weight of spare wheel etc is further aft, there would be some leverage, so less weight produces more compression on the rear springs.

There was a thread with a few pics about Defenders that were lowered 1".

BTW, nice Defender Thumbs Up Looks like it had a proper 300tdi conversion with the air intake pickup on the right wing. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #954617 5th Jun 2022 2:49pm
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Dave12345



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Keswick Green
Looks like I need 5 bags of compost in the back then Very Happy

Yeah the previous owner’s attention to detail was superb. He may be on here, so hi if you are!

I’ve got photos of the resto showing it before and being built back up from the chassis so I can see how it’s been done properly. Very happy with it and plan to keep it for as long as the government will let us.
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
You will be amazed how comfortable a 90 becomes when it is loaded at the back Wink 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
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MartinK



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
Looks great, welcome to the fold

Is your garage door "up and over"? I had one, and removed the door, now just using a door hinged from the sides, works great!

I've also lowered my Defender (6 years ago!!!) ever so slightly - but I was just looking for a better ride (less jolty) - that was a few years ago and I am still happy. Thread here https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic49065...oilsprings Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
Post #954673 6th Jun 2022 7:31am
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Dave12345



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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Keswick Green
That’s useful to read thank you - good to see options other than alive too
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boxoftricks



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
Welcome to the forum.

Lower the garage floor would be my recommendation. You can do it in a weekend.
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Oakseywick



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United Kingdom 2000 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Java Black
Welcome to the mad house 😀 nice colour combo. Andy
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Post #954890 7th Jun 2022 10:27pm
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