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Philip



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90 Dreamer wrote:
Would assume that pretty much 100% of latest diesels require AdBlue to conform with emission requirements ??


Vast majority, but not all - some use NOx adsorber/traps instead of SCR.
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Supacat



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Perhaps worth repeating ~ Interesting to read that Adblu is actually still with us because car makers colluded.

EU fines VW and BMW £750m for colluding with Daimler on fumes

"The EU has fined Volkswagen and BMW €875m (£750m) after finding that the German carmakers colluded with another rival, the Mercedes-Benz owner Daimler, to delay emissions-cleaning technology.

The European Commission said that the carmakers had “breached EU antitrust rules by colluding on technical development in the area of nitrogen oxide cleaning”.

Volkswagen, the world’s largest manufacturer of cars, will pay €502m, a reduction of more than half the original fine because it cooperated with the investigation. BMW will pay €372m, far lower than the provision for well over €1bn that it had initially made. Daimler escaped without a fine because it had revealed the cartel to the commission.

The commission’s latest announcement said that the carmakers had also worked together over a period of five years to delay more efficient technology to remove nitrogen oxides by adding urea (a chemical found in mammals’ urine that is sold as “AdBlue”) to exhaust gases. While the process dramatically lowers diesel emissions, it lowers the performance of the engines.

Daimler, BMW and Volkswagen, plus VW’s Audi and Porsche brands, exchanged information on AdBlue tank sizes, meaning they did not have to worry about competing with each other on having cleaner engines, the commission said.

Margrethe Vestager, the commission’s powerful executive vice-president in charge of competition policy, said: “The five car manufacturers Daimler, BMW, Volkswagen, Audi and Porsche possessed the technology to reduce harmful emissions beyond what was legally required under EU emission standards."

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/20...r-on-fumes


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Supacat



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Nice comparison photo of the 3 models:


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https://www.facebook.com/groups/8372547001...748252427/

I'm drawn to the depth of the windscreen on the Grenadier compared to the Defender.
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Supacat



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ChasingOurTrunks wrote:
The Ineo's seats have a lever to slide them back and forth; the ND is all electronic with motors, servos, controls, and computers involved in simply adjusting the seat


Let's hope JLR don't get their motors from Brose...

a new feature that will disable your seat controls if you keep messing with them
The new seats will track and measure the amount of adjustments users make and will disable the controls if they detect “excessive” changes.

The new motors come from Brose, a 110-year-old German company that supplies a lot of components to the automotive industry."

https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/31/2291107...-out-brose
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J77



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Perhaps already been covered, but noticed a contrast nose in Red or Orange is available with certain colours. Also a contrast rear door, though only Orange.



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You can get the back door in red, too. Darren

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Ads90



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Why though? Red nose day?
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Caterham



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liking it.
the front bumper doesn't look so MASSIVE in those shots either. Thumbs Up
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Supacat



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Might not be on the configurator but a decent colour combo:


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m33ufo



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Has there been any update on when the actual pricing will be available, including options, and when we'll be able to formally order?

Also, will those with an earlier pre-order get any advantage in terms of a production slot? 110 DCPU



Mark
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Supacat



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I think we are due some form of update shortly.
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m33ufo



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Just wanted to make sure I hadn’t missed anything Smile 110 DCPU



Mark
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ADVAW8S



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Supacat wrote:
I think we are due some form of update shortly.


At the Seattle Grenadier day, Greg Clark (head of the N.A. sales) said in April the configurator will go live with all accessories and options. Currently it is running at about 40%. You will get a pricing idea too. He seems to be testing out pricing here in America but mention one could expect a base around 70k and fully loaded at 80k USD.
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m33ufo



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That’s interesting. So perhaps a couple of months behind initial indications. 110 DCPU



Mark
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