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Cragster69

Member Since: 15 Jun 2021
Location: Scotland
Posts: 193

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Cairns Blue

3rd row seat belt points

I have 2007 2.4 TDCI CSW. I'm slowly working things out, only had it since Saturday.

It has 7 seats the 3rd row seats were refitted prior to sale, the seat belts for these seats have never been installed. It failed an MOT a few years ago for having the seats without any seatbelts and since then they were removed. I'm keen to have the ability to carry more passengers and would like to get the seatbelts installed prior to the next MOT.

I have fitted the drivers side seatbelt and bracket but don't see where the end of the seatbelt bolts onto as an anchor point. Not sure if it needs to be fitted via a spreader plate through the body like the 2nd row seats or whether it has a fixing point hidden somewhere?

Does anyone have a photograph of the seatbelts fitted in the 3rd row. I've found workshop drawings but it doesn't show where the bolt goes specifically. Other pictures from Exmoor Trim etc just show the seats fitted without any seatbelts (they are advertising the trim to be fair)

Cheers

Craig

Last edited by Cragster69 on 19th Jan 2022 3:39pm. Edited 1 time in total

18th Jan 2022 9:26pm

piechipsandpeas

Member Since: 12 May 2021
Location: Albany, Western Australia
Posts: 213

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver

Hi Craig

Photos of my passenger side 3rd row seat belt fixing. I haven't got one of the reel behind the plastic panel sorry but assume you are asking about the fixing onto the inner wing. Car is 2013 2.2 TDCi.

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19th Jan 2022 12:12pm

Cragster69

Member Since: 15 Jun 2021
Location: Scotland
Posts: 193

piechipsandpeas thank you

I've managed to get the seatbelt reel fitted on the bracket behind the trim, it's where the other end of the seatbelt anchors to on the body I was unsure about.

19th Jan 2022 3:38pm

jmccoy55555

Member Since: 01 Dec 2021
Location: Surrey
Posts: 5

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

I’ve got theses to convert my utility…. Not fitted yet. There’s a left and right.

https://yrmit.co.uk/product/lhs-rear-seat-...-defender/

19th Jan 2022 6:57pm

Cragster69

Member Since: 15 Jun 2021
Location: Scotland
Posts: 193

Thanks jmccoy55555, do they come with fitting instructions?, assume the seat belt attaches to the upright the two parallel plates are confusing me though would they not restrict access to tighten the bolt?

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I found this diagram online looks like there are potentially 2 fitting kits for the seat belt.

I have 2 indents in the wheel arch below the rear seats that seem to be guide holes in a similar position to the picture above from piechipsandpeas.

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Would this work?
https://www.jgs4x4.co.uk/universal-seat-be...-plate-x2/

20th Jan 2022 4:00pm

jmccoy55555

Member Since: 01 Dec 2021
Location: Surrey
Posts: 5

I think bolt 7 would go through the tub into the bracket that I referenced that is in turn attached to the chassis. There's also a second bolt which I think just bolts straight through to stop any movement. This ties up with the pictures from piechipsandpeas.

I did come across that plate at some point when I was looking. I think it may be for the side facing seat lap belts.

21st Jan 2022 8:51am

Cragster69

Member Since: 15 Jun 2021
Location: Scotland
Posts: 193

Thanks again that makes sense now looking at piechipsandpeas' picture under the wheel arch. I can see how it fits together now.

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I thought the end of the seatbelt attached to the end of the bracket

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That looks like a much more robust solution than the simple spreader plate which as you say is probably for lap belts. I don't want to mess this up and do it wrong when my children are going to be sitting in them.

21st Jan 2022 3:28pm

jmccoy55555

Member Since: 01 Dec 2021
Location: Surrey
Posts: 5

I did find a parts diagram for it but typically can't find it again now.....

21st Jan 2022 3:53pm

RaenerPuma2007110

Member Since: 13 Jun 2023
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 39

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Barolo Black

Hi Cragster, how did the seat belt fitting go?
Im doing the same job now on my Puma 2007.
Did you use the brac kets in the end?

13th Jun 2023 11:23am

RaenerPuma2007110

Member Since: 13 Jun 2023
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 39

This is what my underneath looks like. I guess I need that bracket to give the anchor any kind of strength. Strange you need purchase additional supports (£100 each), when these seats are a standard option.

13th Jun 2023 11:26am

Cragster69

Member Since: 15 Jun 2021
Location: Scotland
Posts: 193

RaenerPuma2007110 wrote:
Hi Cragster, how did the seat belt fitting go?
Im doing the same job now on my Puma 2007.
Did you use the brac kets in the end?

I didn't, for the MOT I removed the seats so it didn't fail due to lack of seatbelts.

I'm enjoying the extra load space without the seats.
They are currently sitting wrapped in a sheet in my garage.
Not sure if selling them or keeping them in case it hinders the resell value.
Would agree that it seems bizarre they weren't fitted as standard. My V5 does say 5 seats though? Craig.

“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.” ― Abraham Lincoln

www.scotgrc.co.uk

13th Jun 2023 3:51pm

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