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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2036  
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The tool that Pete at bell auto services uses is an IIDTool. Pete adds his maps to this to enable maps to be downloaded onto your vehicle and provide all the diagnostic capabilities of the tool.
https://bellautoservices.co.uk/store/defender-remap-tool/ If you do not want a map then cheaper to buy direct from gap diagnostics. Noting the std tool is linked to a specific individual vehicle. https://www.gap-diagnostic.com/products/iidtool/ https://www.gap-diagnostic.com/support/documents/IIDTool/ Nanocom have some serious questions to answer when it comes to their 2.2 support, they really need to step up and rectify the many basic things unsupported on the 2.2 that are supported on the 2.4. If others with a 2.2 and a nanocom feel the same perhaps we get a group together, list the issues and collectively approach black box solutions to get them resolved. |
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4th Nov 2021 5:50pm |
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| philippr86 Member Since: 08 Sep 2017 Location: Frankfurt Posts: 23 
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Thanks Ianh, sums it up perfectly 👍
The Main reason I bought the Nanocom is to change my settings in the ALM module, which works quite good so far. The local LR dealer wasn‘t able to, so I did it myself. But other than that, the Nanocom is quite disappointing. Regarding the 2.2 is around for over 8 years now. Still a lot of bugs, no tools to communicate with the ABS system… |
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4th Nov 2021 9:47pm |
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| Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 499  
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Black Box are not responsive when it comes to their Nanocom.
The bug with the erating live data has never been fixed. Our 110 is MY12. One must admit that dpf reset, injector coding and pump learning have been added later. Then they changed descriptions and they're marketing the Nanocom with these functions This must be frustrating for their new clients. On their website I've never seen anything for the NEW or other recent models. Are they still interested in this market ? |
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5th Nov 2021 7:13pm |
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| nitram17 Member Since: 08 Jun 2014 Location: newcastle Posts: 2261 |
Very good idea  I would appreciate a comment from Diesel driver as he promotes the group buy on here for the nancom. Trading standards/ombudsmen might take a look if its true that they are selling a product that does not work as advertised. |
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5th Nov 2021 8:37pm |
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| philippr86 Member Since: 08 Sep 2017 Location: Frankfurt Posts: 23
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Just a quick update for all of you.
Have been in contact with Pete from BAS and he told me there is actually no such thing as a pilot correction learn in the 2.2 engine management. Must have been inadvertently copied from the 2.4 engine version… |
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5th Nov 2021 9:07pm |
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| DieselDriver Member Since: 13 Dec 2017 Location: Carinthia Posts: 270  
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The injector coding works with Nanocom for Td5 and TD4 without problems.
For my Td5 it worked fine, for my TD4 I did not need it until now but it is supported. |
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16th Jan 2022 7:59pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2036
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By TD4 do you mean the 2.4 TDCI engine ? as it's the later 2.2 TDCI engine where the inability to code the injectors was highlighted.
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16th Jan 2022 8:28pm |
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| DieselDriver Member Since: 13 Dec 2017 Location: Carinthia Posts: 270
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Yes, correct - it works for 2.4 and 2.4 (TD4 Puma).
The old Td4 (before Td5) is not supported by Nanocom. |
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16th Jan 2022 8:30pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2036
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Thanks DieselDriver, the issue is the 2.2 TDCI Injectors CAN’T be coded by the Nanocom, can you confirm I’m correct in this.
Thanks Ian |
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16th Jan 2022 9:10pm |
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| landhank Member Since: 27 Oct 2021 Location: RLP Posts: 37
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It is definitely not working on a 2.2l engine. No injector coding possible, no pump learning and if you try to check sensor values, most of them are wrong (for example oil temp, coolant temp, air inlet temp).
I tried many times to get in contact with bbs but they are not answering my emails. I tried to get help in the nanocom forum as well, but obviously bbs is not answering the questions of the forum mods as well. On the 2.4l the nanocom was a good tool… but on my new car, its kind of useless. |
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17th Jan 2022 8:57am |
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| nitram17 Member Since: 08 Jun 2014 Location: newcastle Posts: 2261 |
D Driver appears not to want to comment about the 2.2 nancom! Yet he promotes group buys !
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17th Jan 2022 6:06pm |
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| DieselDriver Member Since: 13 Dec 2017 Location: Carinthia Posts: 270
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As far as I am informed it also works for 2.2 Puma - this I also wrote one thread before (16th Jan 2022 9:30pm). Moreover, I do not promote this product, I only organize the group buys. I will ask the support team for you (bit of patience please)! Last edited by DieselDriver on 18th Jan 2022 3:56pm. Edited 2 times in total |
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17th Jan 2022 9:19pm |
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| DieselDriver Member Since: 13 Dec 2017 Location: Carinthia Posts: 270
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So, here the answers.
Moreover, they havent got any report of wrong values for Defender Puma. So, it does not look like that you have asked the BBS support team. 
@landhank: Which firmware release do you use on your Nanocom? |
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18th Jan 2022 3:25pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2036
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Thanks Diesel Driver,
So we have confirmation that injector coding is NOT possible on a 2.2 TDCI using the Nanocom! Are there plans to rectify this deficiency? And if so by when? If not will Nanocom be revising their documentation and marketing material to explain this lack of support. As you have the ear of BBS support, I raised a question on ALM support and would appreciate an answer. I was looking at the thread BBS spy started on the ALM ECU. https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic68425.html I raised the following question on the thread and sent a private message but have not received a reply. My question. A question that hopefully BBS SPY ( Colin at black box solutions ) can help me with. I’m a nanocom owner for a Puma. There seems to be two versions of the black cased ALM ECU. One that was fitted between 2012 - 2014 , serial numbers starting with CH, and uses the older style Lucas fobs. One that was fitted from 2014 onwards. Serial numbers starting with DH, has newer fobs with chrome strip. Apparently like the green AS10 unit before, the first generation ALM ECU also became obsolete, hence then replaced with a different newer ALM ECU. See details on remotekey’s site https://remotekey.co.uk/land-rover-keys-re...larm-ecus/ The question is, “does the nanocom unit support these two versions of the ALM unit in the same way? “ as reading your text in this set of posts you only mention the later ALM unit with new type fobs. Remote key also state that you can have a problem with the ALM CH serial number versions if the main battery gets low. This can cause the software to be corrupted and they infer that if you try to reprogram with a diagnostic tool, I.e the nanocom, it will become unrepairable by them. Now I may have read this wrong, as the way they have written this is is slightly confusing. But it would be good to get your views on this as well. I’m sure other owners would be interested in your reply to these two questions and better understanding the nanocom’s capabilities in monitoring and programming these ALM ECU’s Thanks Ian |
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18th Jan 2022 7:35pm |
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