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Race.it

Member Since: 27 Aug 2019
Location: Algeciras
Posts: 828

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alaska White

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I know exchanging my uk licence to Spain was a pain due to grandfathers rights they wanted me to take a class 1 test to preserve my ability to tow a trailer (I have towed trailers off and on for over 10 years, race cars normally etc)

I now have my Spanish with the trailer part but limited to 8.25 ton like the UK one would of been. But it was hard work to preserve it. Searching for my first Defender...and started just as Covid hit, so talk about timing.

5 months after starting the search I found it, and here is the details

12th Sep 2021 8:06am

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

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12th Sep 2021 8:18am

TamarBlue11

Member Since: 25 Sep 2020
Location: England
Posts: 226

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-rules-for-...utumn-2021

Looks like they are removing it.

Last edited by TamarBlue11 on 13th Sep 2021 6:53am. Edited 1 time in total

13th Sep 2021 6:52am

mrd1990

Member Since: 16 Aug 2012
Location: Wales
Posts: 601

First day of freedom, off I go

20th Sep 2021 9:26am

Landymatt

Member Since: 31 Dec 2018
Location: York
Posts: 191

Hahaha excellent!

20th Sep 2021 10:54am

Smyles_

Member Since: 25 Aug 2018
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 518

Well this makes me happy

And it's happening autumn of this year - impressed!

Will probably go on a course either way before I start towing anything major with the 130

Stuart

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58 130 Double Cab HCPU - Cairns Blue
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07 Audi RS4 Avant - Silver

20th Sep 2021 12:09pm

Smyles_

Member Since: 25 Aug 2018
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 518

Updated to confirm that the rules will change on 15 November 2021, subject to Parliamentary approval.

Stuart

Cummins 130 Build Thread
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58 130 Double Cab HCPU - Cairns Blue
04 110 Double Cab - Black (gone)
07 Audi RS4 Avant - Silver

19th Oct 2021 2:58pm

Jem_90

Member Since: 10 May 2019
Location: Oxon
Posts: 54

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Baltic Blue

The rules about what you can tow did not change on 15 November 2021.

The change will be introduced at a later date, and as soon as possible.
Sign up for email alerts to be told when the new date is confirmed.
You must continue to follow the current rules until the law changes.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-rules-for-...utumn-2021 https://www.instagram.com/baltic_blue_defender/

18th Nov 2021 11:14am

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20613

It won’t make any difference to me (as I won’t need or want to tow such weights) but twice now they’ve given out deceptive info.

First of all it was from the first of November approx, then 15th of November then at a later date..

That was clever wasn’t it, publish dates, warn of fines of non compliance when the dates changes would apply then alter them again. Not once but twice.

Perhaps it would have been better to have only announced it when ready and stick to it, and not move the goalposts. Chillin In The Backwoods🇬🇧🇺🇸
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18th Nov 2021 1:00pm

Devon-Rover

Member Since: 22 Jan 2015
Location: South Devon
Posts: 923

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Aintree Green

Data diving the parlement files seem to indicate a the road safety concerns being raised and the request of an Impact assessment from the DfT

https://statutoryinstruments.parliament.uk...J/SI-2021/

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/2021-1...ations2021

Esseintially until the impact assesment has been cleared for publication (Later this year

)

to quote baroness vere

Quote:

I have rattled through most of what I wanted to say. I will definitely pick up Hansard to make sure that I have gone through all of the points, and I would be very happy to meet noble Lords in due course, perhaps to chat about this again, when the accreditation scheme is developed a bit further and when we have the impact assessment. We can look through all of the information we have at that time.

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18th Nov 2021 6:14pm

kenzle8a

Member Since: 12 Feb 2020
Location: None
Posts: 1074

What a cluster

, I have no issue taking a test if I need to. However I need to be able to two a trailer at some point soon.

21st Nov 2021 6:56pm

mrd1990

Member Since: 16 Aug 2012
Location: Wales
Posts: 601

It's officially changed, at last.

Your rights to towing are no longer based on your ability to afford a £600 course inc test.

From Today, anyone with a car license can tow up to 3500kg provided the towing vehicle is rated for it.

First bit of fairness for the less well off in a long time.

17th Dec 2021 12:33am

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5068

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

You didn’t need to do the course, just the test. It’s a backwards move Mike

17th Dec 2021 6:21pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17600

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

It will be interesting to see if the change actually has the effect of allowing a reduction in the backlog of HGV driving tests with a consequent improvement in the shortage of UK HGV drivers, since this was the sole justification for the change.

17th Dec 2021 6:27pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20613

Good timing, as at this time of year there won’t be a rush in one go so will implement a gradual take up of it.

I somehow doubt you’ll see massive increase in trailer towing around as some may think.
For once common sense prevails and allows for people to take responsibility for themselves and their actions.

I believe there was some minor changes to things such as breakaway cables too I thought I had read about such as having a secondary at all times but don’t quite me on that.
On my unbraked (which’s suits me fine) I always use the standard Ifor breakaway loop, but I use an additional breakaway cable too and always have.

Just useful for extra peace of mind.

Will benefit British manufacturing and freedom of choice, safety will be the drivers realisability and failing to uphold that will no doubt be treated just as seriously as anything else such as having bald tyres or lights not working. Chillin In The Backwoods🇬🇧🇺🇸
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17th Dec 2021 7:16pm

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