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boxoftricks

Member Since: 06 Feb 2019
Location: Home Counties
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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver

Hydrogen Internal Combustion Engine - Better than EV!!!

This is a really interesting video

Great to see British engineering at the forefront and a potential solution for commercial vehicles. Fingers crossed JLR takes a look

12th Aug 2021 12:55pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17382

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Haha! Beat you to it!

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic79596.html

It is an interesting and encouraging video.

12th Aug 2021 2:57pm

boxoftricks

Member Since: 06 Feb 2019
Location: Home Counties
Posts: 747

You did indeed.......

Super interesting to see how this plays out.

12th Aug 2021 3:48pm

jimbo55

Member Since: 15 Jul 2020
Location: Midlands
Posts: 399

JLR have already employed a fair few hydrogen specialists….

12th Aug 2021 6:31pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17382

It's just a shame that JLR no longer makes any interesting vehicles any more, so the fact that it's employed hydrogen experts is irrelevant to me.

Ineos, on the other hand.........

12th Aug 2021 9:52pm

windy81

Member Since: 14 Mar 2018
Location: North Wales
Posts: 311

hydrogen is great except for the onboard storage tanks need to be massive to achieve any meaningful distance. Hydrogen is really explosive so the tanks need to be properly robust.

13th Aug 2021 7:38am

boxoftricks

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JCB are saying the storage tanks are the same volume as the diesel tanks achieving similar run times. Seem to be like for like.

13th Aug 2021 7:57am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
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windy81 wrote:
hydrogen is great except for the onboard storage tanks need to be massive to achieve any meaningful distance. Hydrogen is really explosive so the tanks need to be properly robust.

Much the same could be said for batteries in an EV - they need to be massive (and staggeringly expensive) to achieve the same range, and the burn uncontrollably under certain circumstances. At least hydrogen offers refuelling times comparable to current ICE vehicles.

13th Aug 2021 8:35am

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
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2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

Refuelling times do seem to be similar for one off comparisons, but I've read reports from California that they seem to fall down if there are a number of cars in a queue wanting to refuel sequentially (ie, in real world conditions) with icing issues.

19th Aug 2021 6:10am

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