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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5816   
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Thanks for the info all. Still like the look of the Jimny. And I LOVE the buzz. That's how to get a modern, retro iteration of a classic right.
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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4th Mar 2021 8:47am |
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| SN Member Since: 29 Jun 2007 Location: SK6 Posts: 729 |
I wanted to buy my missus a new Jimny but EU regs are going to stop that unless I can get one of the last 2020 ones Steve N | 21MY Defender
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4th Mar 2021 8:51am |
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| Eppilihp Member Since: 10 Aug 2019 Location: Emmental Posts: 61 
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It’s still available but only as a 2 seater commercial vehicle.
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4th Mar 2021 9:11am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018  
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As "pedestrian safety", type approval, legislation are often rolled out as an absolute rebuff to any design choices/challenges facing vehicle manufacturers, it's worth a look at the actual regulations, or at least one of them applicable in the EU:
Regulation (EC) No 78/2009 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 14 January 2009 on the type-approval of motor vehicles with regard to the protection of pedestrians and other vulnerable road users https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN...32009R0078 Noting that future technology may bring more retrospective design choices back into play: "(6)Vehicles equipped with collision avoidance systems may not have to fulfil certain requirements laid down in this Regulation to the extent that they will be able to avoid collisions with pedestrians rather than merely mitigate the effects of such collisions. After assessing whether such technology can effectively avoid collisions with pedestrians and other vulnerable road users, the Commission may present proposals amending this Regulation to allow for the use of collision avoidance systems." |
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4th Mar 2021 9:32am |
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| Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510
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That black Grenadier looks like a computer game Defender they haven’t quite changed enough of to get away with. Woeful.
I doubt EU pedestrian impact scores are high on Suzuki’s list |
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4th Mar 2021 7:17pm |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592
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If the buzz is built like the ID3 (same platform) the pedestrian and driver safety is like nothing have come across in any other car. Ours is constantly warning and intervening. The ID light warns you if a pedestrian so much as looks at the road, the fronts built from very flexible material if I hit a wall I think id bounce off it. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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4th Mar 2021 7:42pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Winter testing in Austria, not sure if that is a raised air intake on the left in the photo?
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13th Mar 2021 1:16pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5816
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Looks much better with the in-grille lights being blacked out and less obvious. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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14th Mar 2021 6:10am |
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| Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 484 
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Don't expect a well designed snorkel. The vehicle design is far below any other 4x4. It's more a cheap van design. They won't win a price on it and I bet the Queen will never use it. Like that IVECO Defender thing...  |
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19th Mar 2021 7:11pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4209 
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"The vehicle design is far below any other 4x4"
Assuming you aren't just referring to the superficial design, which is a bit wonky at the front, how do you come to that conclusion? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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19th Mar 2021 7:27pm |
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| LandymanStefan Member Since: 30 Aug 2017 Location: Surrey Posts: 881  
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Some new photos on insta
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19th Mar 2021 7:52pm |
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| Nitroneil Member Since: 05 Mar 2019 Location: Stirling Posts: 132 
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I assume they have an anti theft device in those doors as opposed to undoing the 4 bolts and nicking them. Or maybe there is some defender dna in there. 90S D250 fuji and loving it.
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19th Mar 2021 11:28pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I guess the question really should be whether there is a market for stolen Grenadier body panels ~ would scrap value alone make it a worthwhile exercise?
As a contrast, having watched all of Powerful UK's videos, I'd be concerned just how many exterior panels on the new Defender are removable with just your bare hands. Pull hard enough and they all come off by design. The benefit of lantern clips...wait till there's enough of them out there and the professional light fingered Brigade have established a 2nd hand market... |
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20th Mar 2021 6:39am |
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| Nitroneil Member Since: 05 Mar 2019 Location: Stirling Posts: 132
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I quite like my question. 90S D250 fuji and loving it.
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20th Mar 2021 8:34am |
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