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Joe_80



Member Since: 08 Aug 2020
Location: London
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I asked about seat coverings and didn't get anywhere. But they also tried to say there was not a fault so more the merrier when it comes to raising the problem.

On another topic, don'y suppose you have the brochure when you got the car? I can't find the one I downloaded and I'm having a 'debate' with JLR about the activity key and the none existent headlamp washer on my first edition. 2020 Defender 110 First Edition with a couple of factory options

Previous LRs
Discovery 5 (current now Wife's car)
Evoque - Also Wife's (previous)
Freelander (previous)
3 door RR V8 (Very Previous - but got me stated! Wink )
Post #881733 29th Jan 2021 2:17pm
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
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I thought the headlamp washers couldn’t be specced on the First Edition as they are part of the cold climate pack that isn’t available on FE’s Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #881799 29th Jan 2021 6:53pm
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Tim in Scotland



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Joe80, I’ve sent you a pm if you could check your pm’s Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #881803 29th Jan 2021 7:04pm
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Supacat



Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
umbertob wrote:
It's a Technical Bulletin now, at least here in North America (JLRTB02070NAS1.) I have a copy of the PDF but can't figure out a way to attach it to this message. However, it pretty much tells the dealer to use a wet vac such as a Bissell, soak the fabric with clean water first and then gently vacuum it out, let dry and return to customer. According to the TB, the fabrics manufacturer used an incorrect treatment.


Does beg the question how many times JLR are prepared to do this remedial action rather than replace covers with correct treatment?


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https://www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/u...202021.pdf
Post #889592 7th Mar 2021 9:06am
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SN



Member Since: 29 Jun 2007
Location: SK6
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For those not on Facebook, LR have upgraded the seats on Base, S and SE from Leather+Fabric to Leather+Leather for MY22.
Reported by Tim from Scotland from on here


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Alongside this it also appears they've done the same upgrade on the last of the MY21's - on the same FB thread, three people have reported receiving their MY21's very recently like this!

Good news for me! Thumbs Up Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
Post #890825 11th Mar 2021 8:35pm
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SCP73



Member Since: 27 Feb 2021
Location: Essex
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@Steve

Regarding the Leather+Leather upgrade and you noticed it on FB, I just went through the FB page landrover.uk and could not see it.

Is there a specific FB page for defenders? And, lastly, is it just the cloth that has the issue of water staining, I hav on order "Acorn/Lunar Windsor leather and Robustec seats with Lunar interior" and having 3 nippers water where it should not be is a daily routine Wink Smile 1992 - Defender 90
1997 - Discovery
2015 - Disco Sport (only 1 child)
2018 - Merc V-Class (3 Children and the mutt)
2020 - Ordered 110 X-Dynamic HSE MY21.5 (hoping big enough for the family)
2021 - MY21.5 Cancelled by JLR, MY22 ordered, awaiting dates :/
Post #890851 11th Mar 2021 10:00pm
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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
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Quote:
Is there a specific FB page for defenders


many of us congregate on "all new defender owners group" a global group with plenty of advice and tips
from owners from just about everywhere .. including Tim and Steve

https://www.facebook.com/groups/357024011587035 yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #890852 11th Mar 2021 10:09pm
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SCP73



Member Since: 27 Feb 2021
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@Zilch, thanks awaiting approval for the group Smile 1992 - Defender 90
1997 - Discovery
2015 - Disco Sport (only 1 child)
2018 - Merc V-Class (3 Children and the mutt)
2020 - Ordered 110 X-Dynamic HSE MY21.5 (hoping big enough for the family)
2021 - MY21.5 Cancelled by JLR, MY22 ordered, awaiting dates :/
Post #890853 11th Mar 2021 10:17pm
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Ajay(UK)



Member Since: 13 Feb 2021
Location: Arundel, W.Sussex
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From what I’ve read recently the staining issue relates to the woven textile fabric seat on FE, SE models and below. The Robustec fabric on the higher spec models is a different material and appears unaffected.

Well I hope so or I’ll be asking for full Windsor Leather Whistle

Andy. 22MY Defender 110 X Dynamic HSE D250, Gondwana Stone with too many options!
2022 Range Rover Sport D300 Dynamic Autobiography, Firenze Red with Black Pack.
Gone: 2015 L405 SDV8 Autobiography, Indus Silver with Black Pack.
Gone: 2014 Discovery 4 HSE Luxury Firenze Red
Post #890854 11th Mar 2021 10:17pm
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SN



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If you're not on Facebook here is a link to a zip file containing the official JLR document that Tim's screenshot came from

http://stevenicklin.com/downloads/my22newdef.zip

Also happens to contain a bonus official JLR Order Guide spreadsheet for MY22... grab it while you can! Whistle Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
Post #890862 11th Mar 2021 11:11pm
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deaston



Member Since: 18 Dec 2020
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SN wrote:
For those not on Facebook, LR have upgraded the seats on Base, S and SE from Leather+Fabric to Leather+Leather for MY22.
Reported by Tim from Scotland from on here


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Alongside this it also appears they've done the same upgrade on the last of the MY21's - on the same FB thread, three people have reported receiving their MY21's very recently like this!

Good news for me! :thumbsup:


I'm not sure how I feel about this - the half leather half fabric seats are really nice. My car is being built this week so I fear it may fall into this all-leather solution.
Post #890870 12th Mar 2021 6:25am
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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
Location: Whitsundays & Sydney
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i bit the bullet some time back and went with the Melvill & Moon seat covers, i was going to buy them for my
Aussie lap anyhow to protect against red bull dust, sand, damp etc, but with the dust/greying affect
on the textile elements of the seats during every day use, i ordered and just fitted them well in advance

Very good quality and fit, the installer just needs a bit more practice Whistle Laughing



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Click image to enlarge yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #890872 12th Mar 2021 6:47am
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SN



Member Since: 29 Jun 2007
Location: SK6
Posts: 729
deaston wrote:

I'm not sure how I feel about this - the half leather half fabric seats are really nice. My car is being built this week so I fear it may fall into this all-leather solution.

Aha - are you one of the five on FB (including me) who all have today as their build date?
Seeing as there a few instances reported on FB of vehicles being delivered with 'upgraded' full leather already, I am assuming mine will be as yours would be.

I guess the only outstanding query would be whether the order was ebony or acorn.
Mine is acorn. What's yours? Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
Post #890913 12th Mar 2021 11:37am
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deaston



Member Since: 18 Dec 2020
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@SN - I'm not on Facebook, so it's not me, but my build date is today.

And I specified Khaki interior which appears to be less popular based on your post!
Post #890918 12th Mar 2021 12:08pm
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Digger2000



Member Since: 19 Sep 2020
Location: Newcastle
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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Other HT Tonga Green
I have the khaki leather/robust woven fabric it’s lovely. I got the fabric stain guarded with 4 coats and no problems in the first 5 weeks of ownership not one stain.
Post #890921 12th Mar 2021 12:12pm
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