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DEFENDER_V8

Member Since: 20 Aug 2020
Location: AMSTERDAM
Posts: 19

1986 Defender 90 V8 Petrol CSW Auto Tonga Green

PHEV - P400e Plug in Hybrid

Hello everybody, i'm new at the forum. Thanks for letting me in!
I'm driving Land Rover for many years, have 2 old Defenders for the fun, both with V8 petrol. (Discovery 3,9)
One is a soft top in Heritage trim and the other one is nice Tonga green beast, with air suspension, auto gear box etc etc
For business and daily i use Discovery 5 diesel, very nice ride, extremely soft, almost Range Rover comfort. (I drove the Disco5 true PERU in 1 week as member of the Land Rover Experience Tour...)

Living in Holland, close to the beach, work in the booze business and has 4 kids. (so my wife has 5 to live with)

Enough about me.....
is there any news about the coming P400e / PHEV DEFENDER, because of tax laws, this could be a very nice option for daily ride. Adding battery pack on a car saves 30k euro on list price here in holland, maybe the car is more exprensive on the pricelist, but i'm still curious about the specifications. I test drove the P400e in a new Range Rover Sport, more or less same driveline and was really impressed.

When is production starting of the P400e, what I've heared very quick, mid September......

20th Aug 2020 5:49am

Smilesapart

Member Since: 28 Sep 2013
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 735

Hi and welcome to the Forum.
Unfortunately I’m not able to help answer your question as I’ve still not read anything that gives away when the 400E is coming out on the Defender.

Just to clarify, are you saying you have a 30k Euros surcharge on top of the asking price if you now buy a new vehicle that isn’t Electric or plug in Hybrid?!! Sold the Puma Defender and bought a brand new Pangea Green 2020 Defender D240 S with a few factory extras!

20th Aug 2020 7:24pm

DEFENDER_V8

Member Since: 20 Aug 2020
Location: AMSTERDAM
Posts: 19

Yes, in Holland they add €45.178 on top of the list price....
For example.... https://build.landrover/0B92FC9D

20th Aug 2020 7:29pm

RDR

Member Since: 27 Apr 2018
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 592

ouch

110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten

20th Aug 2020 8:18pm

Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 3681

My word!! That seems excessive!!

21st Aug 2020 4:51am

Smilesapart

Member Since: 28 Sep 2013
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 735

That’s absolutely incredible! Sold the Puma Defender and bought a brand new Pangea Green 2020 Defender D240 S with a few factory extras!

21st Aug 2020 6:08am

discomog

Member Since: 09 May 2015
Location: Notts/Lincs Border
Posts: 2529

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Looks like the government wants you all to ride around on bicycles. What does Mark Rutte and his cabinet drive around in? Defender 90XS SW
Mini Countryman Cooper S
Morgan Plus 8

21st Aug 2020 7:18am

90 Dreamer

Member Since: 13 Jul 2019
Location: Oop North
Posts: 2166

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

not a recent thing, remember looking at some motorcycle pricing some years back and they were massively more costly than other Euro countries

21st Aug 2020 7:20am

hezor

Member Since: 01 Feb 2021
Location: Nurmijärvi
Posts: 53

Pretty much the same thing in Finland. The P400e is the cheapest Defender due to taxation.

1st Feb 2021 10:21am

deaston

Member Since: 18 Dec 2020
Location: UK
Posts: 150

Quote:
Yes, in Holland they add €45.178 on top of the list price....
For example.... https://build.landrover/0B92FC9D

I'm assuming you can't just hope over to Germany and buy it there? I thought that was the point of the EU - free trade and free movement of goods?

1st Feb 2021 11:51am

Apapy

Member Since: 08 Jan 2016
Location: Brussels
Posts: 42

2016 Defender 90 Other SW Auto Santorini Black

I doubt the P400e is the cheapest in any country WITHOUT government interventions that are linked to the place you pay taxes.

1st Feb 2021 2:33pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3312

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

deaston wrote:
Quote:
Yes, in Holland they add €45.178 on top of the list price....
For example.... https://build.landrover/0B92FC9D

I'm assuming you can't just hope over to Germany and buy it there? I thought that was the point of the EU - free trade and free movement of goods?

I'd presume you could buy it cheaper elsewhere but would still get done for the extra when registering it. WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.

1st Feb 2021 4:52pm

SN

Member Since: 29 Jun 2007
Location: SK6
Posts: 729

deaston wrote:
Quote:
Yes, in Holland they add €45.178 on top of the list price....
For example.... https://build.landrover/0B92FC9D

I'm assuming you can't just hope over to Germany and buy it there? I thought that was the point of the EU - free trade and free movement of goods?

a fine example of the invisible and non-existant level playing field they were so desperate to retain.... Steve N | 21MY Defender

| 08MY Discovery 3 (history)

| 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)

1st Feb 2021 10:44pm

AndrewM

Member Since: 15 Jan 2021
Location: St. Moritz
Posts: 10

Zed wrote:
deaston wrote:
Quote:
Yes, in Holland they add €45.178 on top of the list price....
For example.... https://build.landrover/0B92FC9D

I'm assuming you can't just hope over to Germany and buy it there? I thought that was the point of the EU - free trade and free movement of goods?

I'd presume you could buy it cheaper elsewhere but would still get done for the extra when registering it.

I believe that is effectively how it works. The large taxes in certain countries tend to be registration taxes. These apply even if you already own the vehicle. If you're living in the country for more than 6 months you have to register your car locally. You then pay local registration and road taxes. If you had already paid registration taxes in your previous country you might get a rebate on the original taxes.

You certainly can shop-around for a cheaper purchase price within the EU but you still will be responsible for local non-sales taxes.

2nd Feb 2021 5:38am

Digger2000

Member Since: 19 Sep 2020
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 590

Just seen in the Facebook group that someone got a phone call from Land Rover to inform them their P400e order has been cancelled! It was supposed to be built 12th February with delivery a month later. No new date given and no explanation as to why it has been cancelled.

2nd Feb 2021 9:51am

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