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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3425  
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Diesel for me, as said torque is where it’s at for me. Never had any issues with them warming up, they warm up pretty quickly. Also never had problems with the AdBlue system, the 90 will be my 4th LR with AdBlue.
We are getting to a stage where neither engine will be welcome in towns and cities. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue |
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31st Jan 2021 12:38pm |
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| deaston Member Since: 18 Dec 2020 Location: UK Posts: 150 
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A diesel engine seems best for an off-road vehicle with the additional torque and low-rev pulling power. And with the D250 being six-cylinder, I imagine is very smooth.
I wonder is the re-sell of the diesel will be better too - appeals more to the wider Defender audience. A petrol Defender seems like an oxymoron to me. |
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1st Feb 2021 11:40am |
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| Gareth Member Since: 12 Dec 2011 Location: Woodford Posts: 1115 
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Just think, the first Land Rovers were all petrol. 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV
1966 S2a 109 aka Betsy |
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1st Feb 2021 3:02pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Only out of necessity. They fitted diesels as soon as they became practical (and even before in some cases). Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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1st Feb 2021 3:08pm |
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| martinf Member Since: 30 Nov 2020 Location: Sussex Posts: 103
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In the past diesels were simple and reliable. The problem with modern diesels is the emission controls make life much more difficult. In particular DPFs need to benefit from a decent run to burn off all the soot. Otherwise there are tiresome problems. So for me I worry that lots of relatively short journeys and bits of offroading are likely to lead to trouble and so petrol is now my preference.
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1st Feb 2021 3:28pm |
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| DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837
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Ignoring the mpg side of diesel vs petrol, the problem I’d have with the latter is that for a large slice of the car’s mileage it would be overseas sur l’continent. Diesel is usually significantly cheaper where I tend to go, and en route there.
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1st Feb 2021 3:38pm |
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| SN Member Since: 29 Jun 2007 Location: SK6 Posts: 729 |
^^^
 loved those "our man in Scandanavia" postings Derek!
...and the "our man in the far east" too!  Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history) |
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1st Feb 2021 3:51pm |
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| DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837
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I doubt either of those trips will happen for a few years.
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1st Feb 2021 3:55pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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That’s my destination when we get to travel beyond the UK. It’s the last of the Great lighthouse Capes I have to get to to complete my round of the Great Capes. I was hoping to do it by sea like the others but when I did a Classic Hurtigruten Cruise in 2016 the weather wasn’t so good and we went south of the island that Nord Kap is on......
I’ve already been round Capes Farewell (south Greenland), Good Hope, Horn and Leuwin by sea Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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1st Feb 2021 8:36pm |
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| DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837
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It’s a great mid point on an Arctic road trip. My thoughts on next one is up to Tallinn via Germany, Poland & Baltics, over the water to Helsinki then right to the Rooskies border and follow Via Karelia north, then up past Lake Inari to Kirkenes, to N Cape and down the coast to Batterie Deitel, across the mountains to the spine of Sweden and back via the bridges through Denmark and south. About a 3 week jolly.
All speculative at the mo as I don’t see borders being open, and stable, for a good while.  |
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1st Feb 2021 8:56pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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I’ve been to Kirkenes and driven from there to the Schengen/Russian border crossing even though the border goes down several streets in Kirkenes there’s no border checks until you get to the big fence with all the guard towers along it....... the Russians used to come to Kirkenes for food shopping in the many supermarkets and the Norwegians did the fuel buying across the Russian border as it was about 1/10 the price in Russia. Any Russian or Norwegian living within 20kms either side of the border had visa free crisping rights! Didn’t apply to any other nationality though.
Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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1st Feb 2021 9:22pm |
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| DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837
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Some great wild camping spots around that area, Grense Javobselv being one of the best. Interesting going past heavily armed Norwegian border guards then pitching camp in sight of Rooskie watch towers.
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1st Feb 2021 9:33pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3425
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The Isle of Lewis will be my Defenders first big trip, if we’re ever allowed out again. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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1st Feb 2021 9:48pm |
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| DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837
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You might need an MOT before then!
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1st Feb 2021 9:57pm |
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