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| big ives Member Since: 24 Dec 2013 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 125  
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oldowner if you go on you tube, Britannica Restoration you will find this guy who has about 1000 videos all related to landrover repairs. he has a wealth of knowledge and tips for easy fixes for landrovers. once on his site you can find at leaset 3 videos to explain door seal rubbers, woth while watch.........................cheers Ivan 2016 Discovery 4 1989 90 CSW V8 (fully rebuilt and running like a dream) 1996 defender tray back fully rebuilt/loaded for challenge events |
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23rd Jan 2021 5:00am |
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| Oldowner Member Since: 26 Dec 2018 Location: South west Posts: 619 
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I messed around extensively with the seals and doors when I fitted the new genuine seals - I have owned over 40 Defenders so am well versed with door and striker alignment!
From memory the seals were being held too firm by the reinforcement inside the seal for the barrel curves. They got better after a month or so but even now six years on the door when shut is not flush with the body. If the striker is adjusted so the door is flush, it takes a lot of force for the second operation of the latch, which is what causes cracked inner door panels. In addition, the tub door pillar is under a lot of force which is how they end up cracking around the striker, so I had to compromise and the door is still slightly proud of the body when shut. This was despite new genuine door latches and X-trouser strikers to remove any play in the latching operation. They are Puma doors correctly aligned. The later lower door seals probably do not help as they add an extra layer to compress but it was the barrel reinforcement which causes the problem. I also have a 2015 which is completely standard with its original seals with no issues but I am loathed to pinch the seal off it to try on the older Puma as once they are removed, they never grip fully and end up being knocked loose around the door striker areas before ripping your trouser pockets on the striker when exiting the vehicle. I will report back on Bearmach seals - Clemmo where did you buy yours from? |
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23rd Jan 2021 7:38am |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3259 
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Bearmach website have 15% off their own parts at the moment. WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm. |
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23rd Jan 2021 8:19am |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3671 
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Bearmach website has the seals listed and left and right door seals. I am assuming left is near side/passenger side? Am I right?
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23rd Jan 2021 8:57am |
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| Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1217  
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Mine came Via Ebay at £21.99 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DEFE...2749.l2649  Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow....
Defender 90 HT............Pangea Green BMW X3 Msport............Carbon Black Mini Electric................Grey. (wow!) MGB Roadster……..........Vermillion 17k miles Honda Benly CD200....Maroon --------McLouis Fusio........7.4m of fun |
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23rd Jan 2021 9:06am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804  
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This is all very timely (and useful) as I need to do mine soon. I have two types, clearly the previous owners swapped a pair, but as they're split between front and back (i.e. One matching pair on the front row, one matching pair on the second row), I'm not sure which ones are the genuine and which not.
At Bearmach's price I'll just swap all of them. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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23rd Jan 2021 9:10am |
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| the_lincs_landies Member Since: 29 May 2023 Location: Boston, Lincs Posts: 230
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Apologies for reviving a 2 and a half year old thread, but it saved creating a new one.
I have recently had water ingress in my Defender Puma Hardtop, quite bad ingress to be fair - soaking some cushions in the footwell, the carpet, the floor, and behind the firewall matting (though I think the foam backing "absorbed" some, which is how it got up there). I need to sort this fairly quickly - firstly so i can be certain that it is the cause, and also so that I can stop worrying about a wet footwell whenever it rains. I did the old watering can trick and my footwell got sodden, including the top of the door card - this wasn't a clue before but the car has been sat for several weeks so it probably just dried before i got a chance to see it. Tracking it back it was coming in at the top of the door frame, so likely it is the passenger door seal. Anyways... Is it still the case that Genuine is best, or as mentioned are Bearmach a good alternative (I see the ones on ebay only get 2-3 stars, but the above on this thread is to the contrary). |
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11th Aug 2023 10:37am |
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| Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1217
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I started the thread…
I fitted Bearmach. Still no problems … save your money Clemmo Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow....
Defender 90 HT............Pangea Green BMW X3 Msport............Carbon Black Mini Electric................Grey. (wow!) MGB Roadster……..........Vermillion 17k miles Honda Benly CD200....Maroon --------McLouis Fusio........7.4m of fun |
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11th Aug 2023 11:00am |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3671
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I *think* I’ve got a spare bearmach seal at home that is surplus to requirements. It’s yours gratis if you want it? Ill confirm tonight.
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11th Aug 2023 11:10am |
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| the_lincs_landies Member Since: 29 May 2023 Location: Boston, Lincs Posts: 230
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If you do (and its passenger) mate that would be amazing, thanks. I'll at least PayPal you for the postage, and a goodwill beer money gesture. But if not, no worries I'll just order one. I had come to terms with parting with £90 anyway tbh, I only asked here as I the bearmach reviews on ebay are still a bit hit and miss. [/quote] |
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11th Aug 2023 2:14pm |
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| jcw Member Since: 11 Sep 2016 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 168
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I’ve also just fitted the Bearmach seals to both front doors having using generic parts a few months earlier, they are night & day better, they fit perfectly and navigate the bends in the frame without wrinkling out of shape.
No leaks whatsoever since, with all the rain we’ve had. Available on eBay for £20 each delivered |
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11th Aug 2023 3:10pm |
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| the_lincs_landies Member Since: 29 May 2023 Location: Boston, Lincs Posts: 230
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Thanks JCW.
Are they uniform across all defenders then? Same from series right up to Puma? |
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11th Aug 2023 4:35pm |
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| bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 1913  
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I will be honest the bearmach ones I had were very poor, I swapped them back for genuine within a few weeks, when side by side (new) the difference between them is night and day, and when you close the door with the genuine seals you can actually here the air escaping out of the central rib.
Had them on now for about 4 years with no issues so far. Best price was from Duckworths 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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11th Aug 2023 5:02pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3671
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[/quote] It is indeed a passenger (I think that’s what left hand front means?!). PM me your details and I’ll post it off in the morning.  Click image to enlarge |
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11th Aug 2023 6:08pm |
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