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Wematanye



Member Since: 29 Sep 2020
Location: behind the dairy twist
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Damage coming off the truck
Long time lurker, first time poster. Had not intended this to be my first post on the forum but got some very unfortunate news today from my dealer. My defender, ordered November last year, just arrived at the dealership yesterday/today, has unfortunately been damaged coming off the truck. Wanted to seek yalls advice on how you would proceed from here. They're sending it off to their body shop to be assessed and repaired. I don't know the severity of the damage, but "slight" per my sales rep. He's a nice guy so I'm not trying to throw anybody under the bus, but I'm at a loss for where I go from here. So freaking disappointed. Crying or Very sad

I'm so damn annoyed I don't even know where to start. This was spec'ed exactly how I wanted it, there will not be another like it on the lot. Base model, p300, full off road set up, white steel wheels, 7 seats and panoramic sunroof, amongst a number of other little smaller details.

For anybody that says "you wanted to take it off road and it would have sustained worse damage under those conditions," please keep your opinions to yourself lol.



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Post #858871 29th Sep 2020 11:04pm
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StructuralDefect



Member Since: 08 Aug 2020
Location: Middletown, Ohio
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I would say all damaged parts should be replaced. Even then that doesn't cover the delay you will incur while they make it right so I would hope they would throw you something else in good faith. Free first service? Some free car washes? Something right? 2020 Defender S, P300 in Fuji White w/black ext. pack. Ebony leather heated front/rear seats. Comfort & conv. pack. Towing pack. Cold climate pack. Panoramic roof & expedition roof rack. Classic mud flaps. Fog lights. 19 inch 6 spoke w/off road tires. Clear sight rear view mirror. Sirius XM. Delivery 9/4/20
Post #858872 30th Sep 2020 12:20am
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Logannz



Member Since: 28 May 2020
Location: Queenstown
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New Zealand 
It's not something I'd be too worried about.. get it in writing that they will replace all damaged parts as soon as it's feasible to do so, then take the opportunity to fit any bumper off accessories at the same time.
Post #858873 30th Sep 2020 1:15am
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Wematanye



Member Since: 29 Sep 2020
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It’s already at the shop in queue for repairs. Who the heck knows how long it’s gonna take to source that bumper. I was so close!
Post #858878 30th Sep 2020 5:27am
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stew 46



Member Since: 26 Jan 2012
Location: Wadebridge ,cornwall .
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I would of been asking how long and if they said we don’t know THEN FECKING FIND OUT NOW !!!!!!!!

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Post #858882 30th Sep 2020 6:57am
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Huttopia



Member Since: 23 Feb 2016
Location: West Midlands
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I’m amazed they told you. Pretty sure quite a few vehicles turn up at dealerships damaged and get fixed without the owner ever knowing....just ‘there’s been a delay at the factory..’

Good luck, I’m sure it will look new when you pick it up.
Post #858894 30th Sep 2020 7:48am
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
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Welcome to New Defender ownership and the forum.

Take a look at this video and it looks like you will need a complete new front bumper/fender that they can fit at the same time as doing the front bash plate if you are fitting that. appreciate your frustration but it’s one of those things that could happen to any car, keep your cool, let them fix it to “as new” standard and if there is a delay in getting the car to you ask to have use of a similar or better specced vehicle for as long as procurement takes. I’m sure it wasn’t the dealership’s fault but I expect the transporter driver will have been disciplined severely. FYI here it doesn’t take very long to get hold of parts like that - often overnight from a central parts store held nationally (remember even here in the UK this car isn’t built here so sometimes it takes a wee bit longer for bits to come from the factory - 6 weeks in the case if my A pillar trims- but I still had a drivable car). I’m sure that LRNA has a good stock of replacement bits at their warehouse near Baltimore.
If you are having the front protection plate fitted ( I have it on my car) then ask them to waive the labour costs for fitting it as compensation as that is as much as the cost of the protection plate.
 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!


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Post #858897 30th Sep 2020 7:59am
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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Huttopia wrote:
I’m amazed they told you. Pretty sure quite a few vehicles turn up at dealerships damaged and get fixed without the owner ever knowing....just ‘there’s been a delay at the factory..’

Good luck, I’m sure it will look new when you pick it up.


This. Many new cars end up being repaired prior to fist sale and the owner is generally none the wiser. If it is put through an approved shop the repaired vehicle will (should) be every bit as good as a new one (one reason why these repairs are so expensive) and the dealer doesn't even need to tell you.

I imagine that it will be necessary to replace the scuffed plastic bit with a new part, and I really doubt that you'd even know it had been damaged if you hadn't been told. That being said, I would check it very closely when they hand it over and if you are not happy, tell them.
Post #858902 30th Sep 2020 8:39am
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Pilgrimmick



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Just have an agreement that they will replace with new, all damaged parts when in for first service. 80" 1948
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Post #858909 30th Sep 2020 9:15am
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Chawks



Member Since: 19 Feb 2017
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Whilst the delay in getting the car is frustrating it's not the end of the world. Minor damage by the looks of it and the dealer has been upfront about it and is rectifying it.
Post #858918 30th Sep 2020 9:31am
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milesr3



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2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green
On the positive side, it appears that the damage is to an unpainted plastic part which they ought to be able to replace without it ever being noticed.
Post #858923 30th Sep 2020 9:57am
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Supacat



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Pilgrimmick wrote:
Just have an agreement that they will replace with new, all damaged parts when in for first service.

Why not hold off, get it in writing, or even hold the parts at home; run with the damaged parts and then if you incur more damage off road you know it counts for nothing with your free repair up your sleeve. Get new parts fitted sometime down the road, maybe before you sell or are doing a major refresh.
Post #858951 30th Sep 2020 12:09pm
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Wematanye



Member Since: 29 Sep 2020
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Thank you all for advice! Unfortunately not my car yet so LR gets to do with it what they feel is best. I actually definitely appreciate the transparency of my salesperson. They 100% didn’t have to do that. Coincidentally our other LR was scheduled for some work today so I was able to sneak a peak of the defender damage.
Post #859026 30th Sep 2020 8:25pm
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Wematanye



Member Since: 29 Sep 2020
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Tim in Scotland wrote:
Welcome to New Defender ownership and the forum.

Take a look at this video and it looks like you will need a complete new front bumper/fender that they can fit at the same time as doing the front bash plate if you are fitting that. appreciate your frustration but it’s one of those things that could happen to any car, keep your cool, let them fix it to “as new” standard and if there is a delay in getting the car to you ask to have use of a similar or better specced vehicle for as long as procurement takes. I’m sure it wasn’t the dealership’s fault but I expect the transporter driver will have been disciplined severely. FYI here it doesn’t take very long to get hold of parts like that - often overnight from a central parts store held nationally (remember even here in the UK this car isn’t built here so sometimes it takes a wee bit longer for bits to come from the factory - 6 weeks in the case if my A pillar trims- but I still had a drivable car). I’m sure that LRNA has a good stock of replacement bits at there warehouse near Baltimore.
If you are having the front protection plate fitted ( I have it on my car) then ask them to waive the labour costs for fitting it as compensation as that is as much as the cost of the protection plate.


You nailed it on your estimate. Thanks for the tip. And thanks for sharing with us your defenders entire odyssey. I’ve learned a lot. You’re obviously a very patient, level headed person. Sure it’s served you well in life. And happy the ingress issue was resolved!
Post #859027 30th Sep 2020 8:30pm
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dannyson



Member Since: 16 Feb 2019
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You shouldn't even notice the repair! - my D4 suffered a huge dent in the door before I collected it..... no trace of dent ... mind you had to go back to Bodyshop for numerous other issues that should have been picked up on QC/PDi.... 'paint lag', damaged rear top stop light, etc .... and just a few weeks or so ago (after 5 years of ownership) rust bubbles on upper door window frame.

Still got the 'B' Pillar rattle .... despite the alleged fix Rolling Eyes

So be prepared for a few visits back and forth - mechanical/electrical maybe but especially bodywork!

According to 'Which' magazine 'Land Rover still the most unreliable brand...'

You'll soon be on first name terms with your local dealer if my experience is anything to go by.....
Post #859039 30th Sep 2020 9:33pm
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