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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7907   
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I think a block would look ok, if painted black externally. Bricks do look nicer though.
I'd be concerned how they tie a solid 100mm thick block to the floor? In my experience, a block bedded on just mortar on a concrete slab has no strength and the slightest knock sees them breaking away. The photo you posted has hollow blocks with rebar no doubt embedded in the slab to tie it all together, much stronger. James MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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23rd Sep 2020 4:47pm |
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I hope so| v8bob Member Since: 14 Mar 2018 Location: Midlands Posts: 319 
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There are a multitude of stone effect blocks. I would think some must be at least the 7Nm.
But as said, if it is just one layer I would want some extra anchorage. If you put a workbench against them and get a bit heavy handed it will soon make them loose. |
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23rd Sep 2020 5:10pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2656 
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This is mine. Engineering bricks and larch cladding. Ignore the fact that the slab is proud of the ground, this is due to varying ground level across the site. On a flat site only the bricks would be visible and the cladding would finish around 150mm above ground level.
 Click image to enlarge For holding the wall down these are the straps I used - visible here before the internal wall sheathing went on. Bolted into the slab as mentioned. Click image to enlarge |
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23rd Sep 2020 5:50pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3758
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^ That's a neat easy solution for holding the walls down.
Our ground 'level' is far from that, the areas all over the place.. I think it maybe we do it using the blocks and just see what its like. |
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23rd Sep 2020 5:56pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3321 
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I need to start on a new garage soon. Are you guys digging foundations or using a floating slab? I have nearby tree roots I'd rather not disturb. WARNING.
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23rd Sep 2020 6:06pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3758
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zed....
Tree roots.... Oh my .......follow my other build thread. I've had some trees removed and stumps ground out... Then we had 3 tree stubs behind where I need to shutter up to. I will add pictures soon on the other thread as we only removed the last weekend. I'm re floating where the old garage was but the new ones a big bigger. I also moved 6 tonne of crush last weekend and need more... wait until you see our garden. Its turned into a bigger job  |
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23rd Sep 2020 6:14pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3321
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It always turns into a bigger job.
The boss thinks I'm building a new log store... WARNING. This post may contain sarcasm. |
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23rd Sep 2020 6:18pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2656
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Mine is on a single mass concrete ‘floating’ slab. The ground is almost solid slate waste so no need for strip foundations given it’s a timber structure, though if I had built it in blockwork I would have done it that way.
If you’ve got clay or the like then all bets are off and you’re into structural engineer territory. |
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23rd Sep 2020 6:23pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3321
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We are on clay. I guess that means I'll be playing on the digger then? WARNING.
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23rd Sep 2020 6:25pm |
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| the gamekeeper Member Since: 01 Jan 2010 Location: Surrey Posts: 96  
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Clay is the worst you will have to deal with heave when you cut the water demand from the trees, also consider hedge planting this may be a high water demand too.
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23rd Sep 2020 8:45pm |
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| Ads90 Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds Posts: 812 
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Agree - those were existing garages I extended/modified for clients - pics to show the weathered concrete blockwork. This is one of my own, on edge of conservation area so I had brickwork covering the blockwork, lead flashing dressed up behind breather membrane & lapped over top of plinth: Click image to enlarge |
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24th Sep 2020 8:30am |
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| Rosco Member Since: 03 Dec 2010 Location: Burntwood Posts: 1833 
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Scott, have you looked at split face block?
http://www.besblock.com/splitFace.php 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone 2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone 2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW |
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24th Sep 2020 3:41pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3758
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Rosco
I have not seen them thanks, I will stop at my local builder merchants and talk bricks with them. I'm coming round to the pictures of the blocks as they are, the concrete in front of the garage will have gravel to finish off and it may not look so in your face... once everything else is done 
so a couple of weeks ago this was our garden... Click image to enlarge couple of weekends later Click image to enlarge and currently it looks even worse as we aim to not only to sort the base for the garage but we have now also attempted to level our garden a bit and install a soak away |
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24th Sep 2020 5:18pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Just saw a video on these ground screws yesterday and the system looked interesting: There's something in the comments quoting "The cost was about £100 per screw installed, this can vary on quantity, length, location etc," and "A concrete slab that is engineered not to fail and meet building regulations for this build would need to be a proper reinforced raft and it would cost well over 10k maybe even 15k". https://www.facebook.com/GravitasGS/ Click image to enlarge |
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26th Sep 2020 8:30am |
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