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familymad



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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
They will need one registered in Sept to hit a target I would think. End of year after Christmas usually quiet for them. 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
Post #852994 29th Aug 2020 7:38pm
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G4R1



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Supacat wrote:
bankz5152 wrote:
MrEleven wrote:
Yes it will definitely void the warranty, my mate just wreaked his x5m50 cause of a re map so be careful, he took the map off and bmw still could tell he had been messing around with it.


So get it done properly Laughing

But yes it would void it, however itd likely be a year or two before anyonr cracks the ecu anyway.


And then there's a potential clash with SOTA:

Software Updates may not install correctly if your vehicle has non-standard
software or hardware;
(d) Software Updates will overwrite current software on the vehicle. This may
also apply to any third party non-standard software on the vehicle


Good point, thank you.
Even if remapping is not possible Im still happy with D200 as it is.
Post #852996 29th Aug 2020 7:40pm
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J77



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G4R1 wrote:
Hi,

Managed to do a test drive (3h) of D200 yesterday, I have also done a test drive of D240 a couple of weeks ago and I think there is very little difference between these two versions.

The only time I was noticing difference in dynamics is on the motorway. When I was driving at 70mph and wanted to accelerate to overtake a car in front of me it was a bit slow, otherwise great engine.

Going to place an order for D200 in next few days, trying to get some sort of dealer contribution but so far I managed to get only £1000, the rest of the dealers wouldn’t even offer a pound off.


Good to read, the D200 will do me.
Post #852999 29th Aug 2020 7:51pm
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familymad



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We drove a D240SE today from the kind people at Beadles Staples corner. Amazing spec and very impressed with the drive on the road. I’ve done two experiences with LR but not much on road.

We went to try D5 and Defender but we’re not bothered to drive the D5 after the time in the Defender.

The spec on the base and S just blows me away. We don’t need an SE or HSE however much we want one! 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
Post #853003 29th Aug 2020 8:10pm
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J77



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I think the base model has pretty much everything covered.
Post #853005 29th Aug 2020 8:13pm
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Supacat



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G4R1 wrote:
familymad wrote:
Who did you try? 3rd week in sept they may play ball to hit a target on a physical car.

Tried LR: battersea, Colchester, st albans, Watford, west London, north west London and my local Barnet.
I don’t mind waiting. Do think this will apply to factory orders too or only in stock cars?


I think it's definitely a numbers game, as in the numbers of dealers you ring. Seven's a good number but maybe there's an 8th or 9th waiting with a better deal. You just need one.
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Telemarkskier



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Looking at the engine updates in the Evoke and D Sport, I think in 2021 the D240 will be dropped and replaced by a mild hybrid D250. Its typical of JLR to introduce a new model and use the old engine spec for 12 to 18 months and then update to the latest engine to meet the latest emissions. That's what happened with the two models above when they were phasing out the old PSA/Ford 2.2 TD4/SD4 diesel to use the Ingenium lump without a close coupled catalyst and all the inherent problems that caused. Therefore there should be some good deals on the 240D and 200D around that time.
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zilch



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Assume the MHEV for the Defender, RRS etc, will be based on the straight six diesel,
a few reports on the inter web suggest it will be available in D250, D300 and D350 form yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #853049 30th Aug 2020 8:15am
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Telemarkskier



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Assume the MHEV for the Defender, RRS etc, will be based on the straight six diesel,
a few reports on the inter web suggest it will be available in D250, D300 and D350 form


Yes you could be right and my assumption wrong Embarassed , I wonder what the price increase will be for an extra 10BHP?
Post #853052 30th Aug 2020 8:28am
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J77



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It looks like I might get a good choice of engines when it comes to ordering my 90.
Post #853064 30th Aug 2020 9:08am
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familymad



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D350 will be a beast 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
Post #853070 30th Aug 2020 9:48am
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J77



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With a beast of a price. I think I can rule that one out, it’ll probably still be a D200 for me.
Post #853097 30th Aug 2020 11:26am
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Tim in Scotland



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All these dinosaur engines coming and nothing serious about a PHEV let alone a BEV. LR is going to be hit very hard by the forthcoming corporate emissions fines if they don’t start doing something PDQ. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
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J77



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BEV won’t happen until the Defender switches to the MLA platform.
Post #853113 30th Aug 2020 12:42pm
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
If it ever will...
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